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Post #905289

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DrCrowTStarwarsreborn
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Ranking the Superman films
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7-Feb-2016, 12:05 PM

Bingowings said:

The situation is created by the writer wanting a film where buildings fall down with no regard to the people inside and where the ‘hero’ snaps the neck of the ‘villain’.

It’s not the sort of film that works with that character.

Supergirl the television series currently has superpowered people landing in the middle of town every other week and always the title character tries to get people out of the way or draw the villain to an isolated spot.

If that’s not possible in the story that’s because the writer doesn’t want it to be possible in the story which is down to the writer not understanding how the character works.
If smashing buildings full of people is the only way to stop the villain how is this person a hero?
He is just another force of nature like the Cloverfield monster, which could make for a good film but not a good Superman film.

In the case of Man of Steel it makes for a rather bewildering mess of a final reel.

So the writers should always write the exact same story over and over again and every villain should do the exact same thing for the exact same reason, well that is boring. If that is the way things are going to be done why even bother making more films, why don’t you just rewatch the perfect Superman the movie and Superman 2 and leave the new films alone? That is easy enough. If every film is just going to be the same tired thing and the writers shouldn’t bee allowed to even try any thing new where the stakes are higher in a realistic fashion then I have to wonder why any time or money should be spent making new films, since ever single one of them is going to be exactly the same.

Sorry that is just how I see it, if you don’t take chances on new types of stories there really is no point in telling any more stories. They told the type of story most people seem to want perfectly the first time they tried it with Superman the movie, so why try to top that? Why not just rerelease that film in theaters and maybe give it the SE treatment to clean up some of the more dated special effect, that would be cheaper and the film would be better.

I don’t see this going anywhere productive, so i am done, sorry. In my view if you are not going to take chances then there really is no point in making more movies. I also don’t see why the Justice League would be needed in a world where every villain just politely waits their turn in an open field for Superman to take them down and where Superman can save everyone on his own. Remember one of the jobs the screen writers were given by the studio that pays them was to create a universe where a Justice League movie could take place and the Justice League would be needed because no one hero could save everyone. Superman was only ever able to save everyone in the last series of movies because he could time travel, in this series he doesn’t have that power so he is stuck dealing with the fallout Reeve’s Superman would have had to deal with if he didn’t have that power. Now I admit this is a matter of personal taste and I know I am one of the dumbest and most worthless pieces of garbage on the planet, but this setup appeals to me and I think they can get some good stories out of it and I don’t find it out of character at all.

Now if you think the Reeve’s version of Superman should be the only version anyone is allowed to make films about, then more power to you, write warner brothers and let them know, stay home and watch the old movies instead of watching the new one, write your congressperson and ask that a law be passed outlining what Superman is and is not able to do in a story and how he must always act. That is all fine and productive and maybe it will get passed and then there will be only one version of Superman.

I enjoyed Man of Steel and I am interested to see where the story goes because I saw it as a throwback to the Superman of the 40s and that is my favorite version of the character. I really don’t think there is anything more to say. Neither of us will ever see the logic of the other’s argument so I don’t see any point in continuing. I listed how I rank the films and game my reasons.

Take care.