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Post #905152

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DrCrowTStarwarsreborn
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Ranking the Superman films
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6-Feb-2016, 9:53 PM

suspiciouscoffee said:

The thing with MoS was that, if they hadn’t explicitly stated “this guy’s name is Superman,” there would be no way to know that it was Superman. He wasn’t the likeable boy scout hero I love, he was just some generic ‘superhero’ (if you can call him that) that also has a God complex. First he’s acting like he’s mankind’s only hope, then he’s blowing stuff up just because he can (the satellite at the end).

I just finished watching the movie and everything he banged into, including that thing he was tossed into by Zod. I don’t understand how he was supposed to stop Zod without some stuff getting smashed, even in Superman 2 stuff got destroyed. I guess the rule of thumb is every Superman movie has to end with time travel undoing the events of that movie, or you can’t have a single action scene in the movie.

I don’t understand this standard at all, show me one version of Superman where his fighting a super villain has not resulted in stuff getting smashed.

Also to apply a real life example, if a cop ends up breaking your window in a fight with serial killer who wants to murder you and your whole family, does that then make the cop a bad guy and should he be sent to prison for life with the killer because if he had just refused to engage the killer then your window would be okay? Did you all see a cut of the movie that didn’t have Zod in it and Superman just start smashing things for no reason? is there a cut out there where Zod was some sort of saint handing out candy to homeless children and Superman just picked a fight with him for no reason? I swear there must be because I seem to be the only person on the planet who saw a version of this movie where Zod killed people and he said the words “If you love these humans so much you can watch them die.”, I think i am also the only person who saw the cut where Superman handed himself over to Zod and was going to let Zod kill him until he found out that Zod was going to kill everyone on earth any way. I don’t know how much more heroic you can get then letting someone kill you for reasons you don’t understand or know anything about to keep other people safe. He gave himself up to the army when he didn’t have to, those don’t sound like the actions of someone with a god complex to me. If anything it was Jor-el, Zod, to a lesser extend Pa Kent who had the god complexes and to some extent Superman had to reject the path they chose or it caused him pain. if anything I think this movie was about Superman finding a middle ground and because of that this featured the most humble of all the Supermen on the big screen. He didn’t stand in judgement of anyone and he sent the mass murders to the Phantom zone and he only killed Zod after he was left with no other choice and that cry he gave out after he did it clearly shows that he didn’t enjoy it and that he felt the deaths of every person he couldn’t save because he was out numbered and out gunned. This movie didn’t do anything any of the other superman movies didn’t do, it just showed what it cost on a personal level and didn’t have a cop out time travel ending.

If you want to know why I am okay with this movie I would say read some of the early Superman comics or listen to the radio show where there were conflicts that didn’t take place in a perfect world and there were no perfect or completely clean solutions to any problem.