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Darth Lucas said:

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I managed to download them last night. As Jaws pointed out, the picture quality of ROTJ is definitely the worst of the bunch. ANH is probably the best looking, with ESB obviously being second best... But a close second at that.

ROTJ is definitely watchable though. It does look a bit like VHS, but surely it could be improved upon, no?

Here's another question I'd like to throw out there... What's the general consensus on Team Blu's ANH compared to Harmy's respecialized?

Do people prefer one over the other, or are they considered different leagues all together?

 It's not quite fair to compare them as they aim to do relatively different things. They also relied heavily on each other for help and support. They're two different beasts. If you want to watch the film knowing it was sourced completely from one OOT source, go with TeamBlu. If you want a clearer, crisper image and don't care as much that multiple sources were frankensteined together, go with Harmy. But it's really up to your own preference on what you find most watchable and enjoyable. Both are great and both have their flaws. 

Well put Darth. I suppose that because many people find Harmy's Despecialized to be the definitive way to view the theatrical version at the moment, I figured maybe the feeling would be mutual for the '97 edition.

Personally, I do find it to be a more pure viewing experience when the source is consistent throughout as we get with Team Blu's releases. That being said, Harmy really does manage to seamlessly construct a version that utilizes the best sources available... In the end it's all so subjective isn't it.

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starwarsfan8376 said:

Seems like it's been forever since there has been any movement on this project. Is it still going forward? Any chance the other two films will be released in time for TFA? 

Regardless of what Team Blu's decision is to continue with the project, I would also love to hear what their current thoughts are on completing it.

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As far as this vs. Harmy, I prefer the Team Blu edition. Part of what's specific about the 1997 edition is the color grading. That's preserved in this version. Harmy's is interesting, as it is a tweaked grading of his DeSp, making it like a 1977 inspired 1997 version. 

There's merit to both of them, but I would generally rather watch the purer version in the already very rare occasion that I watch a 1997 SW film. I think this will be the go-to until some lunatic cleans up a 35mm copy. :P

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Well, I based that decision on the fact, that they supposedly used an I.B. Tech print as a reference for the '97SE grading.

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I prefer Harmy's versions because he gets my humor more that dark_jedi.

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Harmy said:

Well, I based that decision on the fact, that they supposedly used an I.B. Tech print as a reference for the '97SE grading.

 True! I think you were probably more faithful to it than Lucas, though. :D

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I'm still pretty sure, at least for ANH, that the video transfers didn't get the look quite right--especially since most of them had the pink tint run rampant through Mos Eisley. Until we find a print source it's going to be very difficult to figure out exactly what they did. The best I've found were reviews at the time saying the new prints despite the hoopla seemed a bit softer and diffused in color in comparison to the last reissue from about 1993 or so.

I do truly hope TeamBlu gets to finish these at some point as the SE really should be preserved since it was really the last official presentable version and remains the best source the films currently exist in. But the big winner was the resurrected GOUT which is so shockingly amazing that it still makes my head spin. Hard to believe a huge Frankenstein resurrection of the old dead horse we all know/love/hate could result in such a staggeringly good HD finished product. If someone showed it to you and said that it was really from an old MUSE 1080i disc or something, you'd believe it.

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Thank you Team Blu for your hard work on SW77. It looks amazing, considering the source. Hoping to one day see ESB80 and ROTJ83 pop up. 😃

Or maybe Disney will finally do the right thing.

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Hi guys,

Thank you for this preservation, Team Blu - I love it!

Is it possible to mux the German audio from Harmy’s Despecialized Edition to this to get German audio or are there advanced tasks needed?

Are the any updates on TESB and ROTJ?

Kindly regards
Nico

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Hello. Could anyone tell me if the Jedi/Feta release of The 1997 Special Edition is still available on usenet? I don’t have access to a private torrent tracker like MySpleen so I’m guessing usenet is my only hope. Problem is the version I’m currently getting has tons of parts downloading with errors and I’m not sure if the .par2 files are going to care of that. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong place? I would really appreciate the help. As much as I prefer the unaltered version of Star Wars, the SE is what I grew up with so it would be great to own these yet again. I’m not asking for links, just a nudge in the right direction. I’m very inexperienced when it comes to usenet.

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Unfortunately it’s as I feared. I’m missing a whole lot of blocks to repair the files. Anyone with a working copy willing to help me out?

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I am also looking for downloading this version of SE. Any help?

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We’re out of luck unless somebody uploads this release again. The version from usenet is broken and unable to be repaired and there’s nothing on MySpleen.

Edit: I posted my upload request on MySpleen forums. No response so far.

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They are on MySpleen. You need to look again.

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We’re out of luck unless somebody uploads this release again. The version from usenet is broken and unable to be repaired and there’s nothing on MySpleen.

Edit: I posted my upload request on MySpleen forums. No response so far.

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Is it possible someone reuploads to a filesharing server or torrent website for the time being? When dark_jedi released his original versions I was able to get them by sending him Blu-Rays to test with but I haven’t gotten a response more recently when I asked him if the same deal could be struck to get the SE BD’s.

I haven’t got MySpleen access myself (and I’m sure some others don’t either) so this might be helpful?

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Hey guys, I’ve been looking for some nice transfers of the 97 trilogy for a while… I can find Team Blu’s ANH on myspleen but none of the other movies (ESB or ROTJ).
Any one got any ideas where I could find’em?
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but from reading some of the older posts it looks like they were available at one point.

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They never got around to releasing upscaled versions of the sequels (97 or original).

Those guys don’t use this site or myspleen anymore. They seem to be much more interested in horror films than Star Wars now.

Their OOT upscale was great for its time, but there are so many options at this point that I’m not sure they need to carry on with GOUT based projects, though DJ’s gout-based V3 was among the best at one point. But it would indeed be nice to see the rest of the 1997 set. It’s the best presentation of the actual version.

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Is this project dead? I grabbed the first Blu-ray a year ago, but I haven’t heard a single update since then.

I assume everyone is all about the Harmy releases now, but I can’t seem to get excited about them. The constant updates and variations are too confusing to follow.

Dr. M

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Doctor M said:

Is this project dead? I grabbed the first Blu-ray a year ago, but I haven’t heard a single update since then.

I assume everyone is all about the Harmy releases now, but I can’t seem to get excited about them. The constant updates and variations are too confusing to follow.

It’s not constant really. The only one that’s been changed a significant number of times is the original due to some coloring issues. The others have only had 2 or 3 versions.

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Hello everyone on OT!

We have been inactive with our Star Wars projects for quite some time now and we know some of you who really appreciate our work have been wondering why. Lately it has been both because of personal/health reasons of members of the team as well as other, better sources becoming available for the OT, making GOUT upscales inferior to the point where it would be unnecessary to spend months and months of work to clean them up, correct and upscale them. We haven’t forgotten about our 97 SE’s though and we will do our best to get those remaining 2 done and out to you as soon as possible.

Now, to the more exciting part of this post:
Today I’m very happy to announce that Harmy, Williarob, schorman13 and DrDre are joining Team Blu!
Their combined knowledge, skill and passion will be a great addition to the team as well as to the quality of future releases, now this really, really has created some fantastic opportunities for us, and will be passed on to all of you.

Stay tuned!

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As for the questions on our ANH 97 SE, I will re upload it when we finish the other 2 so all 3 will be available, we are actually starting right now to finish up Empire and Jedi 97 SE’s.

We have something way, way better in store for the Original Trilogy now and we will share more info on this later.

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Great news about the 97SE and the new team status.