People here really do have drastically different personal rating systems.
I personally would give TFA a 6/10, but whereas that’s a bad rating for someone here, for me that’s a pretty decent rating. Citizen Kane is a 10/10 for me, and something like the Avengers; dumb, but not necessarily stupid and without a plot, and definitely entertaining and funny, is a 5/5.What.
What?
Are you objecting to my rating of the SW movies, or my other examples?I think your jump from ratings out of ten to ratings out of 5 threw him? But comparing Citizen Kane to TFA is like comparing a Picasso to a child’s drawing.
Right, yeah I might have been a bit leaniant towards what makes a 5/5 film. My point was that a 5 is average. Nothing special, but not necessarily bad. Casual filmmaking simply trying entertain. TFA had more of a point to it, but is too unoriginal and action oriented to go above a 7. Therefore I gave it a 6. The PT has many cinematic flaws so I’m pushing them down to either 4 or 3.
EDIT: I just realised I had written 5/5 instead of 5/10. I’ve fixed it now.
I disagree. Technically, the original Star Wars is a copy of literally 3/4 of all movies, stories, books, etc. because it was based on Joseph Campbell’s Hero of a Thousand Faces, which recounts the common story behind every story, so originality shouldn’t really be a factor when rating a movie. People thought The Matrix was original, but it was actually based on an anime and also follows Joseph Campbell’s structure.
So movies are not supposed to entertain? Alfred Hitchcock’s movies aren’t exactly as profound as any of Kubrick or Orson Welles’s movies, but they are considered masterpieces in suspense and story. It’s great when a movie goes beyond that and teaches us things, but just because it isn’t about the purpose of life or something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Besides that, the action and story in The Force Awakens is AMAZING. The entire sequence of Han Solo meeting Kylo Ren to Finn and Rey’s battle with Kylo Ren had me at the edge of my seat.
Here’s where I’m gonna start arguing that TFA is actually better than the original Star Wars. For one thing, TFA has much better acting overall and with much stronger themes that are closer to the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi than the original Star Wars. Yes, the original Star Wars effects were beyond groundbreaking, but they are just special effects. Even Lucas himself said that special effects don’t matter if you don’t have a good story(look at half the blockbusters today). It’s also funnier and tells its story more through just visuals. You know everything about Finn through a few short, simple scenes at the beginning of the movie. Same with Rey.The Empire Strikes Back is still better, but take your nostalgia goggles off guys! It’s nowhere near as bad as any of the prequels and is the best Star Wars movie since the Empire Strikes Back.