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Oldfan
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Info Thread: 3D Movies Preservation
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1-Oct-2015, 10:09 PM

jsonthegreat said:

D-Rock said:

mt17 said:

TripleHBK said:

Oldfan said:

TripleHBK said:

This isn't my creation, it was given to me by another forum member "jsonthegreat" from Blu-ray.com shortly after the release of the collection.

 The reason for the 2 separate sources (one DVD & One Blu Ray) is that one eye is from the dvd (I can't remember which, but let's call it the left) and one from the Blu Ray (Let's call it the Right).  The reason is that when 3D is filmed with a dual camera setup 2 separate perspectives are created and For whatever reason, the DVD used the Left eye perspective, while the Blu Ray used the right eye perspective.  The fact that both perspectives were available meant they could be assembled into a fully functioning Real 3d image, and not just one that was post processed into 3D.  

Again, I didn't do any of the work myself, so I can't go into specifics beyond what I've said as I really don't know much more but from what I was told, the DVD was scaled and synced with the Blu Ray release.

I'm unaware if this was ever released publicly on any sites or newsgroups. The creator was banned from the forum shortly after talking about it, and I haven't seen him since.  I was fortunate enough to be one of the few folks that got a copy prior to him getting the boot, so I really don't know how many other people have copies.  

I'd be happy to share for those interested but need to find a viable method for sharing.  I may try the sendspace multiple link route that TeamBlu has used in the past, as I don't want to permanently host a torrent, nor am I really interested in mailing out copies. With that said, I'll look into what other options I have, and see if I can't get this hosted somewhere.  

One solution may be for interested parties to create their own mega.co.nz accounts as I believe I could transfer the files to new accounts from my my account without it counting towards individual bandwidth limits, but I'm not sure on that.  The file is 11GB in size.  I've used my Plex media server to stream it previously myself though I have a copy burned to bd-r as well.  Ideally, someone would be interested in taking this and turning it into a full release with menu and extra's and possibly the 2D version all on a BD-50, but for now that's wishful thinking.

 

I'm one of the other lucky few that manged to get a copy before he stopped posting there. We actually exchanged pm's about the project. I gave him some thoughts I had on the transfer, along with some timecodes of when there are glitches and errors. He replied back that he was planning on tweaking the final version but he never posted it to my knowledge.

I watched it on my 3D tv, and it was indeed spectacular. Keep in mind that it is flawed though. One of the sources was the DVD and the DVD has a different color palette to it than the blu-ray. So the right and left eye each see a different master with different coloring and brightness. When seen together your eyes merge them together fairly seamlessly for the most part. That also means the DVD side has less sharpness and resolution due to it being sourced from DVD.

A bigger issue is that a fair amount of footage in this fan release is in 2D, not 3D. For whatever reason, many of the shots use the same eye in both the DVD and blu-ray - which means that throught the 3D presentation, it will randomly switch to 2D, then back to 3D in the following shot. The glasses of course will remain active - but the image itself will be flat. Thankfully most of the 3D gimmick shots are preserved wonderfully in full 3D, but a couple gimmick shots that stick out of the screen are sadly in 2D. Most of the shots in 2D are quick - the majority of the film is still in amazing 3D - but there are a fair number of shots - some just a few seconds, some longer - that aren't in 3D.

It's still the best 3D presentation you are likely to see of this movie, ever, until Paramount or Warner decides to release this properly in 3D.

 I appreciate the info and I'm glad someone else has gotten to appreciate his work.  With that said, I've nearly gotten the full file uploaded on mega.co.nz so I'll be testing my theory shortly on whether I can share with other mega users or not.

 Please share soon!

 I'd be very interested in this as well. I have heard of some of these floating around, but I haven't been able to find them...

Hey, wait a second... I wasn't banned :-P

Yes, I did put together a 1080p 3D Side-by-Side mkv file of Friday the 13th 3D utilizing Adobe Premiere and available source elements (The UK Blu-Ray, and the Ultimate Edition DVD). It was going good and I created the first version of this for beta testing and sent it to a few users on blu-ray.com.

Then lightning struck. Literally. My house was hit by a lightning strike which fried my computer AND my backup drive. In addition to many personal photos and design projects, I lost the source files and the premiere files for this project. After that, I disappeared from the forums and sulked for a while. But, recently, I was able to recover the mkv file from an external drive I had put it on when I was testing it on my television. 

I'm still trying to decide what to do with it... perhaps I will upload it somewhere and try and fix any problems in it that are noticed.

Wow, that's some bad news. Sorry to hear about that.

I'm the one that sent you a bunch of detailed notes with timeframes on blu-ray.com regarding your 3D mkv. If it would help, I still have the notes I sent you, so I could pm them to you here if you'd like. I'm not sure if they would do any good, depending on if you were able to recover the source files or if you just have the mkv. The biggest issue might be out of your hands - many, many shots are obviously not in 3D. It switches back and forth a lot, and I suspect it's due to the left and right prints that were used for the DVD and blu-ray. For whatever reason, one print or the other may have used bits and pieces of the other eye for whatever reason. That's just a guess. I watched it again recently and the 3D really is outstanding. It's just the 2D bits in-between that hurt the presentation, but that may be out of your control. Let me know.