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Warbler said:


Scooby-Doo is in Star Trek 6?

ATMachine said:


Silly doubleohfive. I was actually referring to the intercuts to the principal conspirators (Admiral Cartwright, General Chang, and Nanclus the Romulan Ambassador) during the scene when Spock obtains their names from a forcible mind-meld with Valeris.

A highly distracting addition to what had been a very tense scene--and the added sound effects do nothing to improve the jarring feel of the cut-aways.
Exactly, I call that the Scooby-Doo ending.

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The only blu-ray version of Friday is the embarrassing "Director's Cut" that has several endless, pace-stalling, timing-decimating quasi-improvised rants by John Witherspoon at the beginning and end, as well as a pat "happy ending" deus ex machina at the last minute that ruins the ambiguity about Craig's job loss present in the theatrical.

I wouldn't rule out a future double-dip with the cleaned up theatrical release down the road though, since the director has never made some megalomaniacal proclamation about "his movies" and "his vision" and such like doggerel.  But for now, it's unfortunate.

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Scooby Doo ending, as in a villain in disguise is unmasked. See also, the end of Wayne's World. ;)

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well if that is the definition of a Scooby Doo ending, then the original theatrical release of Star Trek 6 also had a Scooby Doo ending. 

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I honestly don't recall the Klingon mask being pulled off the assassin in the theatrical cut.

Without the briefing scene with Odo Colonel West, it wouldn't make much sense.

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The mask wasn't pulled off in the theatrical cut?  How was it found out the assassin wasn't Klingon?  I could have sworn the briefing with Colonel West was in the theatrical release.  

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Guess we're going to have to find a film print to settle this. ;)

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In the theatrical cut, the Commander in Chief bends down as if to pull off the mask, but the camera cuts away before he does so.  It's somewhat jarring if you know what was cut, but it looks a little like he is checking the assassin's pulse.  The assassin is never revealed to be human in the theatrical cut (though his blood is obviously red), nor was Colonel West's briefing included.

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doubleofive said:

Warbler said:


Scooby-Doo is in Star Trek 6?

ATMachine said:


Silly doubleohfive. I was actually referring to the intercuts to the principal conspirators (Admiral Cartwright, General Chang, and Nanclus the Romulan Ambassador) during the scene when Spock obtains their names from a forcible mind-meld with Valeris.

A highly distracting addition to what had been a very tense scene--and the added sound effects do nothing to improve the jarring feel of the cut-aways.

Exactly, I call that the Scooby-Doo ending.

It's really more like the middle of the film (well, two-thirds of the way in). So it's kind of a Muddled Middle.

*ba-dum-tsh*

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OK, fine, the Scooby-Doo ending is the unmasking bit, but what do you call the random flashes spelling out who Valris is talking about, complete with sound effects? Mystery Reveals For Dummies?

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Not a movie but a season of a TV series. Power Rangers Time Force was reedited in response to 9/11 to lessen the shots of exploding buildings and the after effects of the exploding buildings. Complete with an episode eventually being temporarily banned from airing, even tho it was reedited too, because of how it depicted the building destruction in the episode.

So when Disney bought Power Rangers they apparently threw out the original masters of the unreedited versions. Leaving only poor VHS quality backups of the originals that weren't suitable for a home release. So when Saban bought back Power Rangers he was left unable to release the originals due to Disney throwing them out.

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doubleofive said:

OK, fine, the Scooby-Doo ending is the unmasking bit, but what do you call the random flashes spelling out who Valris is talking about, complete with sound effects? Mystery Reveals For Dummies?

 Nicholas Meyer's very own Greedo Shoots First moment? ;)

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twister111 said:

Not a movie but a season of a TV series. Power Rangers Time Force was reedited in response to 9/11 to lessen the shots of exploding buildings and the after effects of the exploding buildings. Complete with an episode eventually being temporarily banned from airing, even tho it was reedited too, because of how it depicted the building destruction in the episode.

So when Disney bought Power Rangers they apparently threw out the original masters of the unreedited versions. Leaving only poor VHS quality backups of the originals that weren't suitable for a home release. So when Saban bought back Power Rangers he was left unable to release the originals due to Disney throwing them out.

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 Wouldn't most, if not all the exploding buildings be in the original Japanese footage though?

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Possessed said:

But is the directors cut the only cut available?

 If you're talking about American Graffiti Special Edition, then yes it is.

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Power Rangers should be banned for being Power Rangers.

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TV's Frink said:

Power Rangers should be banned for being Power Rangers.

 I could never take Power Rangers seriously, as I'd seen the far superior Dynaman on cable only a few years before. ;)

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I guess the music rights alone will keep a DVD release from happening. :(

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Come on, Power Rangers and the Star Wars Holiday Special are the PERFECT thing to watch when you're drunk

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TV's Frink said:

Power Rangers should be banned for being Power Rangers.

It probably depends on the season. Some seasons of Power Rangers and Super Sentai are better than others. Sometimes a PR series is better than it's Sentai equivalent, and vice versa. (For example, I thought Samurai Sentai Shinkenger was a good show. Power Rangers (Super) Samurai was an inferior shot-for-shot remake with added cheese, and the characters never stopped talking.)

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TV's Frink said:

Power Rangers should be banned for being Power Rangers.

This.

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Move to New Zealand then.

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I find the idea of replacing the Japanese actors with new footage kind of weird. None of the live action imported shows I watched as a kid were altered in this way.

At the time, I simply accepted the fact that kids in Japan sooner or later end up fighting aliens with giant robots, and slinky outfits. ;)

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Danfun128 said:

Move to New Zealand then.

 To paraphrase Michael Bolton from Office Space - why should we move, they're the ones who suck.

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TV's Frink said:

Nope.

 

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