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The potential for an amazing story was very high with these prequels if they'd been written by a talented writer. The fall of the republic, the decay and eventual destruction of the jedi order, they had history like that of the rise and fall of the Roman Empire to draw inspiration from.

I think we all had this amazing backstory in our heads after watching the OT and hearing about a Prequel Trilogy being made, an ancient decadent republic on the verge of colapse, an overly complacent/proud jedi order, the tragic fall of a noble hero, controlled by his own fears of loss, trying to do whats best, believing the ends justified the means, only to lose his path along the way.

Instead we got an unlikable petulant man-child as the main character that we were supposed to be rooting for, tedious stories of trade embargoes, stilted automatons for Jedi, Jar Jar Binks, Jedis waving lightsabers around like cheerleader batons, the list goes on and on... So much potential wasted.

I think that's why everybody was so disappointed, because even subconciously people could sense that this prequel trilogy had the potential for true greatness, to be more epic and more tragic than the original trilogy, the backdrop is there. All it needed was a writer that knew what he was doing. Instead we got GL.

I wish that the PT could be remade at some point with improved characters and story but I suspect that one of the conditions that GL insisted on when he sold Lucasfilm to Disney is that the Prequel Trilogy can't be changed or remade, which would be a real shame.

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Less CG, less sabers, no midichlorians, more Qui-Gon, all shot on 35mm (HDCam was a huge mistake), Lawrence Kasdan, someone other than Hayden, less weird aliens that we never saw in the OT, less copying Shakespeare, and a better costume designer.

Just saying..

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

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Talking of costumes, it makes me think of the decision to have the Jedi wearing Tattoine robes; a fairly big mistake, I think.

Lucas was keen that audiences would recognise the Jedi as soon as they saw them, but I think he should have have a bit of faith in his own scene-setting skills, and in the audience's intelligence. In the end, this detail doesn't match up with the OT, even though Lucas was keen to have it all blend together. Maybe we wouldn't have had quite so silly Jedi haircuts either (but I won't go on about that again!).

Likewise, returning to Tattooine so that it "looks like Star Wars" was also a mistake - part of the "tiny universe where everything significant happens to the same small group of characters" problem. We should have had new, unique locations - Anakin shouldn't have grown up on Tattoine. Jabba shouldn't have been in it, etc.

I realise Fett was always connected to the Clone Wars, but he shouldn't have been in it as a child; better to change that bit of back-story rather than put in lame fan-pandering stuff that harms the character (although I did like the Jango-Kenobi fight; one of the few decent fights in the PT in my opinion). Other similar errors were having Chewbacca know Yoda, Anakin build 3PO, etc. All this stuff harms not just the PT, but the OT and thus Star Wars as a whole. You end up not just with one lousy film, but damage to the decent films in the series.

And if you're going to have lots of lightsabre use, spend a bit of time making sure the extras don't look inept/stupid holding them. I'm thinking of the minor Jedi in the arena battle (stupid poses and moves abound, even by PT standards) and the children in Yoda's classroom, who apparently would rather be doing anything rather than learning how to move a sabre. It all just seems so half-arsed. I know Lucas put a lot of effort into the PT, but a lot of it has a "that'll do" type feel.

Most of the above is "what they shouldn't have done", rather than "what they should have done", but I think avoiding the above would have at least helped the films get on the right track. In essence, it's about having a lot more faith in the SW universe, and not having to namecheck existing stuff ("hey! remember Chewie? here he is!" type of nostalgia). What we got was a peculiar kind of nostalgia-pandering that damaged the original thing you're meant to be feeling nostalgic about. There was already enough connection to the originals - Kenobi, Vader - we didn't need to see a prototype/young version of absolutely everything.

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An older Anakin and Padme in TPM, along with the same actor playing Anakin for all 3 movies.

The biggest problem with Episode I is that we essentially have to re-acquaint ourselves with the characters because they are so different in Episode II.  There is a new actor playing Anakin in Episode II, so that takes time getting use to along with an older Padme played by Portman.  And QuiGon should have never been in Episode I, because that cut into Obiwan's screentime, who we really don't get to know til Episode II.

In many ways, the Saga started at Episode II because that is when you get to the nitty gritty of the main characters, and that is the biggest flaw of the Prequels. 

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CO said:

In many ways, the Saga started at Episode II because that is when you get to the nitty gritty of the main characters, and that is the biggest flaw of the Prequels. 

I agree. However, I can also see what Lucas was aiming at; he wanted to show someone who turned out "evil", who started out as a normal kid - but by degrees, he slowly got corrupted through choices that he thought were right at the time. It didn't really work, of course, for various reasons, but the goal makes sense.

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The prequels should have started during the clone wars - which should've been going on for a number of years, with a much older Annakin - there were rumours of Gabriel Byrne taking the role. I thought Obi-wan and Annakin should've been in their 40's, as Alec Guiness looks about 70 in Star Wars.

They should've been epic war films, with the same Kurosawa influence running through them. Annakin should've been turned to the darkside because of the power he felt, not through a love story. The films should've had R2-D2 and C-3PO in them much like the ST, as servants who sometimes save the day and comment on things.

Complex political arguments could have still played a part, and the formation of the empire could've been shown in a much more dynamic way.

Jedi's should've been much cooler! Not a bunch of idiots running around twirling lightsabers - they're supposed to be Samurai after all. Definitely needed a Han Solo type character - could've been a woman, missed opportunity. The cynical character could've even been Annakin himself.

We all know that Annakin turns into Darth Vader, but it would have been great if it was somehow an unexpected turn of events that led to this - he takes a path that the audience would also choose. We know the ending, but getting there could have been really something amazing. Very tough to come up with that type of situation, but there you go.

Obviously they should've been looser, a few adlibs, more life in them. They should've been made for adults.

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he takes a path that the audience would also choose.

I think that's what Lucas was trying to do though. He wanted to portray a decent person who made reasonable choices that turned out to be the wrong ones. That's why he was still tinkering with Anakin's fall after shooting finished. It went from ideological/ethical reasons (Anakin thought the Jedi were evil) to personal ones (he wanted to save Padme); Lucas wasn't sure how to sell the idea to the audience. Unfortunately, what he settled on didn't really work, and the PT didn't pull this story off.

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An older Anakin and Padme in TPM, along with the same actor playing Anakin for all 3 movies.

The biggest problem with Episode I is that we essentially have to re-acquaint ourselves with the characters because they are so different in Episode II.  There is a new actor playing Anakin in Episode II, so that takes time getting use to along with an older Padme played by Portman.  And QuiGon should have never been in Episode I, because that cut into Obiwan's screentime, who we really don't get to know til Episode II.

In many ways, the Saga started at Episode II because that is when you get to the nitty gritty of the main characters, and that is the biggest flaw of the Prequels. 

Wasn't that the original plan? I think I remember Lucas or someone saying that in the 'making of' documentary? And it was changed to a younger kid to emphasize the innocence, earlier (and presumably target the young, toy consuming market). 

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Definately having Anakin as a little kid for the whole of Episode I was the first really big mistake by GL. If it has to shown how he was found by Qui Gon (or better yet, by Obi Wan) make it happen in the first 15 minutes to half hour, then move onto when he's an adult, let the audience get to know the character as he will be for the rest of the trilogy in that first film.

Of course making adult Anakin so unlikable was probably the biggest mistake of the PT, impossible to build a story that anybody will care about around a character that nobody likes. That was the real nail in the coffin for the Prequel Trilogy.

The Phantom Menace is easily my favourite film of the PT because little Ani at least you can kind of get behind, he's not unlikable at that point, just a little annoying at times with his exclamations like 'Now THIS is pod racing!'. Liam Neeson is the best thing about the film of course, he adds much needed class and gravitas to proceedings in his role of Qui Gon. The Darth Maul fight is easily the best of the prequels for me, the pod race is actually pretty cool and the real clincher for me is that it was shot on film so it has that Star Warsy feel, it feels like it belongs alongside the OT. The second and third films shot on digital by comparison look incredibly fake and artificial, lacking that organic lived in feel of the OT and TPM.

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What would have made the prequels better in your opinion?

I would have made the prequels better.

真実

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imperialscum said:

What would have made the prequels better in your opinion?

I would have made the prequels better.

 That's like saying my four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

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TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

What would have made the prequels better in your opinion?

I would have made the prequels better.

 That's like saying my four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

 If a four-year-old made the prequels then they certainly wouldn't have been about intergalactic space trade blockade disputes

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I'm not saying she couldn't have made them better, but rather that anyone could have...so impscum shouldn't feel so special about it.

Then again, she's got a keen interest in trade blockade disputes, so you shouldn't be so quick to assume.

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No George Lucas. Should of just handed over the basic outline and bought a ticket on opening night like every one else...

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TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

What would have made the prequels better in your opinion?

I would have made the prequels better.

 That's like saying my four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

 Frink's four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

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Bingowings said:

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

What would have made the prequels better in your opinion?

I would have made the prequels better.

 That's like saying my four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

 Frink's four-year-old daughter would have made the prequels better.

 I hear her script is available on reddit.

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I'd say a direction that focused seriously on perhaps what the prequels did best, at least once you factor in EU material and current canon material like "The Clone Wars", that being a critique of the Jedi order. The EU outright commits to the idea that the Jedi order was flawed, and points to the OT being a serious spiritual rebirth of the Jedi. The prequels to some degree seem to go along with this, but they're bogged down by spectacle and distractions. If the prequels had focused more on this, things like midichlorians and pompous Jedi would have been a strength, used to show a Jedi Order who's become too focused on rules, absolutes and the demystification of their spirituality, not a weakness. Focus on a divide between Jedi who have become too high-minded, and forgotten the core values of the Jedi. Have Anakin serve as a sympathetic character, driven to the dark side by a Jedi Order so close minded, he really did have no where else to turn.

From KotOR to Clone Wars, this idea of the Jedi Order not being faultless has worked really well when executed, and used as a direct theme, rather than the somewhat ambiguous depiction of the Jedi you get solely from the PT.

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The actual background conflict should have had some weight in the characters' actions and motivations.  That's one of the biggest flaws in the PT.

In the OT we care about the Rebellion vs Empire civil war because it determines the paths our heroes crosses, how they view their surrounding world and how they think.

The discovery of the Death Star's secret plans, the death of Owen and Beru and meeting Obi-Wan Kenobi makes Luke join the Rebellion, follow his father's steps and leave Tatooine for some wacky and fun adventures across the galaxy. The fate of Alderaan and the menacing power of the Death Star makes Han have a chance of heart.

The destruction of the Death Star brings hope to our heroes, which later determines the themes and scenes of Empire Strikes Back: Han must choose between becoming someone like Boba or a respectable figure like Lando, Luke grows up, the "I am your son", the depressing ending, the Empire being everywhere.

Thing became flatter in Return of the Jedi with characters stopping being themselves, plot canyons, Ewoks and cheap rehashes of the first movie, but nevertheless there's still a sense of danger and urgency in the battle of Endor: the Rebellion could be finally defeated, which means really bad news for Leia and Han, Han is finally working with the Rebels full-time, Luke could fall to the dark side and replace his father, the galaxy is waiting. The death of Vader and the Emperor and the destruction of the second Death Star and the Executor in an isolared planet at the edge of the galaxy is the first step in a reorganization of the superpowers and organizations, with the Rebellion making advances and the Empire losing control.

Nothing of this is in the PT.

It does not matter whether our protagonists are facing Dooku, Grievous, the Trade Federation or evil Darth Jar-Jar Binks, the conflict is superfluous.

After so many years of conflict you would guess it had an impact on Coruscant and its people, but the same views of the big city in TPM appears in RotS too. We never see the wealthy people becoming wealthier and the poor people becoming even more miserable, we never see any building in ruins. There's a big space battle near Coruscant at the beginning of Ep. III, but once old Palpy is saved the battle is dropped, never to be mentioned again in the rest of the movie.  Utapau, Kamino, Tatooine... All of these planets remains mostly the same. Meanwhile in the OT Alderaan is destroyed, the Rebel base at Hoth is destroyed, Cloud City is evacuated, and the Rebels are pushed back everytime with few if no advances towards the core of the galaxy, the heart of the Empire.

Anakin does not fall to the dark side because he became depressed at the long and bloody conflict.  He fell because crazy Palpy manipulated him with false hopes of saving Padmé and saying bullshit about the Jedi Council. That could have happened with the Republic at peace, with a silent coup d'grace.

Obi-Wan became a flat, boring character, and yet another Jedi rather than the wise crazy wizard he was in Star Wars. The Jedi are all the same, they never ever develop their own personality and traits (although to be honest some traces of this can already be seen in the Luke from RotJ).  Why Cound Dooku is working with the Separatists?  We never know anything about him other that "he's evil".  Who's Grievous? Yet another evil character that does not matter. Vader was the embodiment of all the hate the heroes in the OT had towards the Empire. Things were personal.

What if the war in the PT has a real impact?

Let's say the Separatists have a good cause.  The Republic is corrupted, they're oppresing Outer Rim worlds and some systems wants to leave the Republic or oppose the overly centralization of power.  But the war is unavoidable after the actions of the Republic in Episode I.

The Separarists, exploiting the lack of a republic army and the corruption and incompetence of the Republic leaders, are making some real advances and causing great losses to the Republic.  Coruscant is either in ruins or no longer safe, so the Senate and the main organizations are evacuated.  Things become tense inside the Jedi Order, with opposing factions hotly debating how should the Republic act and what actions should the Jedi follow.

Obi-Wan and Anakin are disappointed but they also have opposing views. Anakin chooses order and eficiency over freedom: he has personally seen the great damages the war has caused.  Maybe his homeworld ("not-Tatooine") has been ruined, our his family ("not-Shmi") is dead, or he has lost his hands and legs in many battles and he relies more and more in mechanical parts, in a foreshadowing of the man he will become.  He sees how the Senate is a bunch of incompetents, how the Jedi are unable to protect inocent people like his family, and how the Jedi ideals of justice and peace are a big fraud.  He sees himself as a highly competent and skilled Jedi and commander, he instantly connects with Palpy and he's enchanted with the chancellor's promises of power and peace. For the greater good.

Obi-Wan and Dooku are mostly similar: they haven't had any personal loses, so they cannot understand how Anakin feels.  However, Obi-Wan works inside the Jedi Order and the Republic, while Dooku left the Order years ago (when he understood the Order was beyond repair) and started working on its own. So both are nice and good people ("from a certain point of view"), working for the same cause, but they doesn't know.

The Republic only starts striking back, reconquering lost worlds, restarting the economy and guarantying the security of its citizens when Palpy, with Anakin at his side, makes morally questionable moves.  That polarizes the Jedi: some believe the old order will be restored at the end of the war so it's ok to support Palpatine's actions, some follow Dooku's steps, and some actively opposes the government.

The Separatists also became desperate in their attempts of winning the war, which further increases the chancellor's public approval.

At the end the Republic wins and it's finally corrupted, the remains of the Separatist cause are reformed into the Rebellion, the Jedi are considered enemies of the Republic (thus killed, with the exception of Obi-Wan and Yoda). The militarization of the Empire continues, and the arrival of the Star Destroyers marks the first time the galaxy sees ships so massive and big. The Empire is everywhere.

This way you can remove or restore original ideas from earlier drafts/stories, or introduce new twists:

-The Republic/Empire, rather than evil, was corrupted beyond repair.  There's no Sith conspiracy, no prophecy, no Sith order: just the wrong people in the wrong places.

-Rather than star systems fearing openly joining the Rebellion, they actively oppose then: the Separatists were reformed into the Rebellion, and the Separatists causes many great losses during the Clone Wars, so why opposing those who bring peace to the galaxy? While the consequences of the war in the PT could be seen in the core worlds, the deadly battles in the OT are at the edges of the galaxy, too far away to create a political and emotional reaction in Coruscant and nearby systems.

That would have nice consequences for the OT:

-Obi-Wan's exile isn't just for escaping the Empire's sinister hands.  It's also a form of self-punishment, and a way to meditate and reorganize his ideas.  He understands he was wrong all this time, and that his failures contributed to the creation of the Empire.  He's hesitant at training Luke, up until he watches Leia's recorded message and understands he has no option. That also makes his sacrifice in Star Wars more interesting.

-Owen and Beru, like many people across the galaxy, opposed the Jedi and the old Republic by the end of the Clone Wars, which ironically makes Luke more and more rebellious towards the establisement.

-The heroes in the OT aren't just fighting against the Empire.  They're facing the whole galaxy, making the end of all the OT movies a more satisfying experience, and the universe a bigger place, rather than the shriking we had with the actual PT.

-Most of RotJ's faults could be redeemed: Luke's reaction at Obi-Wan's "from a certain point of view" is still weak and lazy, but thanks to this fixed PT both the line and Obi-Wan's actions in the OT have a new meaning.  You could understand the passivity of Yoda, Vader's redeem is more believable, the Emperor is again the corrupted and efficient leader rather than a crazy old man.

-You would have a nice mix of the adventures and actions of Star Wars and the complex character development of Empire Strikes Back, so both public would be happy.

-The evolution of the technology in the Star Wars galaxy finally have sense: the droids doesn't suddenly dissapear from the story, the ships in the PT are more primitive, the Star Destroyers are the high-end, latest advance in military fields, and so on.

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That's a good point - the background in the PT doesn't really matter to the characters, and it's hard to care about the war. I don't think it's just because we know what's going to happen. After all, I know what's going to happen (in great detail) when I watch the OT, but I care about the Rebel-Imperial conflict.

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*Warning: a big block of text incoming*

The actual background conflict should have had some weight in the characters' actions and motivations.  That's one of the biggest flaws in the PT.

In the OT we care about the Rebellion vs Empire civil war because it determines the paths our heroes crosses, how they view their surrounding world and how they think.

The discovery of the Death Star's secret plans, the death of Owen and Beru and meeting Obi-Wan Kenobi makes Luke join the Rebellion, follow his father's steps and leave Tatooine for some wacky and fun adventures across the galaxy. The fate of Alderaan and the menacing power of the Death Star makes Han have a chance of heart.

The destruction of the Death Star brings hope to our heroes, which later determines the themes and scenes of Empire Strikes Back: Han must choose between becoming someone like Boba or a respectable figure like Lando, Luke grows up, the "I am your son", the depressing ending, the Empire being everywhere.

Thing became flatter in Return of the Jedi with characters stopping being themselves, plot canyons, Ewoks and cheap rehashes of the first movie, but nevertheless there's still a sense of danger and urgency in the battle of Endor: the Rebellion could be finally defeated, which means really bad news for Leia and Han, Han is finally working with the Rebels full-time, Luke could fall to the dark side and replace his father, the galaxy is waiting. The death of Vader and the Emperor and the destruction of the second Death Star and the Executor in an isolared planet at the edge of the galaxy is the first step in a reorganization of the superpowers and organizations, with the Rebellion making advances and the Empire losing control.

Nothing of this is in the PT.

It does not matter whether our protagonists are facing Dooku, Grievous, the Trade Federation or evil Darth Jar-Jar Binks, the conflict is superfluous.

After so many years of conflict you would guess it had an impact on Coruscant and its people, but the same views of the big city in TPM appears in RotS too. We never see the wealthy people becoming wealthier and the poor people becoming even more miserable, we never see any building in ruins. There's a big space battle near Coruscant at the beginning of Ep. III, but once old Palpy is saved the battle is dropped, never to be mentioned again in the rest of the movie.  Utapau, Kamino, Tatooine... All of these planets remains mostly the same. Meanwhile in the OT Alderaan is destroyed, the Rebel base at Hoth is destroyed, Cloud City is evacuated, and the Rebels are pushed back everytime with few if no advances towards the core of the galaxy, the heart of the Empire.

Anakin does not fall to the dark side because he became depressed at the long and bloody conflict.  He fell because crazy Palpy manipulated him with false hopes of saving Padmé and saying bullshit about the Jedi Council. That could have happened with the Republic at peace, with a silent coup d'grace.

Obi-Wan became a flat, boring character, and yet another Jedi rather than the wise crazy wizard he was in Star Wars. The Jedi are all the same, they never ever develop their own personality and traits (although to be honest some traces of this can already be seen in the Luke from RotJ).  Why Cound Dooku is working with the Separatists?  We never know anything about him other that "he's evil".  Who's Grievous? Yet another evil character that does not matter. Vader was the embodiment of all the hate the heroes in the OT had towards the Empire. Things were personal.

What if the war in the PT has a real impact?

Let's say the Separatists have a good cause.  The Republic is corrupted, they're oppresing Outer Rim worlds and some systems wants to leave the Republic or oppose the overly centralization of power.  But the war is unavoidable after the actions of the Republic in Episode I.

The Separarists, exploiting the lack of a republic army and the corruption and incompetence of the Republic leaders, are making some real advances and causing great losses to the Republic.  Coruscant is either in ruins or no longer safe, so the Senate and the main organizations are evacuated.  Things become tense inside the Jedi Order, with opposing factions hotly debating how should the Republic act and what actions should the Jedi follow.

Obi-Wan and Anakin are disappointed but they also have opposing views. Anakin chooses order and eficiency over freedom: he has personally seen the great damages the war has caused.  Maybe his homeworld ("not-Tatooine") has been ruined, our his family ("not-Shmi") is dead, or he has lost his hands and legs in many battles and he relies more and more in mechanical parts, in a foreshadowing of the man he will become.  He sees how the Senate is a bunch of incompetents, how the Jedi are unable to protect inocent people like his family, and how the Jedi ideals of justice and peace are a big fraud.  He sees himself as a highly competent and skilled Jedi and commander, he instantly connects with Palpy and he's enchanted with the chancellor's promises of power and peace. For the greater good.

Obi-Wan and Dooku are mostly similar: they haven't had any personal loses, so they cannot understand how Anakin feels.  However, Obi-Wan works inside the Jedi Order and the Republic, while Dooku left the Order years ago (when he understood the Order was beyond repair) and started working on its own. So both are nice and good people ("from a certain point of view"), working for the same cause, but they doesn't know.

The Republic only starts striking back, reconquering lost worlds, restarting the economy and guarantying the security of its citizens when Palpy, with Anakin at his side, makes morally questionable moves.  That polarizes the Jedi: some believe the old order will be restored at the end of the war so it's ok to support Palpatine's actions, some follow Dooku's steps, and some actively opposes the government.

The Separatists also became desperate in their attempts of winning the war, which further increases the chancellor's public approval.

At the end the Republic wins and it's finally corrupted, the remains of the Separatist cause are reformed into the Rebellion, the Jedi are considered enemies of the Republic (thus killed, with the exception of Obi-Wan and Yoda). The militarization of the Empire continues, and the arrival of the Star Destroyers marks the first time the galaxy sees ships so massive and big. The Empire is everywhere.

This way you can remove or restore original ideas from earlier drafts/stories, or introduce new twists:

-The Republic/Empire, rather than evil, was corrupted beyond repair.  There's no Sith conspiracy, no prophecy, no Sith order: just the wrong people in the wrong places.

-Rather than star systems fearing openly joining the Rebellion, they actively oppose then: the Separatists were reformed into the Rebellion, and the Separatists causes many great losses during the Clone Wars, so why opposing those who bring peace to the galaxy? While the consequences of the war in the PT could be seen in the core worlds, the deadly battles in the OT are at the edges of the galaxy, too far away to create a political and emotional reaction in Coruscant and nearby systems.

That would have nice consequences for the OT:

-Obi-Wan's exile isn't just for escaping the Empire's sinister hands.  It's also a form of self-punishment, and a way to meditate and reorganize his ideas.  He understands he was wrong all this time, and that his failures contributed to the creation of the Empire.  He's hesitant at training Luke, up until he watches Leia's recorded message and understands he has no option. That also makes his sacrifice in Star Wars more interesting.

-Owen and Beru, like many people across the galaxy, opposed the Jedi and the old Republic by the end of the Clone Wars, which ironically makes Luke more and more rebellious towards the establisement.

-The heroes in the OT aren't just fighting against the Empire.  They're facing the whole galaxy, making the end of all the OT movies a more satisfying experience, and the universe a bigger place, rather than the shriking we had with the actual PT.

-Most of RotJ's faults could be redeemed: Luke's reaction at Obi-Wan's "from a certain point of view" is still weak and lazy, but thanks to this fixed PT both the line and Obi-Wan's actions in the OT have a new meaning.  You could understand the passivity of Yoda, Vader's redeem is more believable, the Emperor is again the corrupted and efficient leader rather than a crazy old man.

-You would have a nice mix of the adventures and actions of Star Wars and the complex character development of Empire Strikes Back, so both public would be happy.

-The evolution of the technology in the Star Wars galaxy finally have sense: the droids doesn't suddenly dissapear from the story, the ships in the PT are more primitive, the Star Destroyers are the high-end, latest advance in military fields, and so on.

 This the best summation of the problems and suggestions of how same might be fixed that I have yet had the pleasure to encounter. This is exactly what needs to be done...now how much do you need to see this through to completion?

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