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I was watching a few of Ady's Yoda clips on youtube (When Yoda's lips move more) and in the description of one video that was released in 2009 stated that the effects weren't finished. So does this mean that Ady improved Yoda's lips moving even further? 

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Lord Haseo said:


I was watching a few of Ady's Yoda clips on youtube (When Yoda's lips move more) and in the description of one video that was released in 2009 stated that the effects weren't finished. So does this mean that Ady improved Yoda's lips moving even further? 
Usually that's code for "please don't nitpick the effects." Ady is constantly tinkering, I haven't noticed any changes since then, but anything would have been subtle.

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Lord Haseo said:

I was watching a few of Ady's Yoda clips on youtube (When Yoda's lips move more) and in the description of one video that was released in 2009 stated that the effects weren't finished. So does this mean that Ady improved Yoda's lips moving even further? 

Those clips have me really interested and excited about what he might possibly do for the prequel Yoda (and Jabba's lair in ROTJ). I remember reading that if Lucas didn't replace the horrid TPM Yoda puppet, he would consider building his own. Well, they did replace that for their best looking cg Yoda yet (now AOTC Yoda is the worst looking one) but I am curious if he is still contemplating on acquring a film-accurate prequel Yoda puppet for replacing (probably most of) the cg Yoda, and working his same lip movement magic there too ;) Maybe that's opening a large can of worms, but with a new 3PO being put in and with the help of other fans, I suppose maybe it isn't too far-fetched :)

Back to ESB:R and still about Yoda, what is the plan for the special edition "ERRR" sound that Yoda makes just as Luke aims his gun at him? I'm sure Yoda knew he wouldn't shoot, but for his "goofy character" acting, I think it adds that much more to his goofiness (in a good way) and it makes me grin each time I hear it :) Im wondering if that may be kept?

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Back to ESB:R and still about Yoda, what is the plan for the special edition "ERRR" sound that Yoda makes just as Luke aims his gun at him? I'm sure Yoda knew he wouldn't shoot, but for his "goofy character" acting, I think it adds that much more to his goofiness (in a good way) and it makes me grin each time I hear it :) Im wondering if that may be kept?


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I don't think that's an SE change. At least, not that I'm aware of. He seems to make the same sound I've always heard.

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doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

Back to ESB:R and still about Yoda, what is the plan for the special edition "ERRR" sound that Yoda makes just as Luke aims his gun at him? I'm sure Yoda knew he wouldn't shoot, but for his "goofy character" acting, I think it adds that much more to his goofiness (in a good way) and it makes me grin each time I hear it :) Im wondering if that may be kept?



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I don't think that's an SE change. At least, not that I'm aware of. He seems to make the same sound I've always heard.

 Growing up, I always seen the version where he only pulled his hand over his face to hide, but didn't make a sound. When the SE was first released, it was suddenly there. Personally, I like it with the sound.

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oh_riginal said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

Back to ESB:R and still about Yoda, what is the plan for the special edition "ERRR" sound that Yoda makes just as Luke aims his gun at him? I'm sure Yoda knew he wouldn't shoot, but for his "goofy character" acting, I think it adds that much more to his goofiness (in a good way) and it makes me grin each time I hear it :) Im wondering if that may be kept?



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I don't think that's an SE change. At least, not that I'm aware of. He seems to make the same sound I've always heard.

 Growing up, I always seen the version where he only pulled his hand over his face to hide, but didn't make a sound. When the SE was first released, it was suddenly there. Personally, I like it with the sound.

It has to be a SE addition. I grew up with the pre-special edition VHS and it wasn't in there, but it has been ever since the SE. Anyway, I like it too :)

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.Mac. said:

oh_riginal said:

doubleofive said:

.Mac. said:

Back to ESB:R and still about Yoda, what is the plan for the special edition "ERRR" sound that Yoda makes just as Luke aims his gun at him? I'm sure Yoda knew he wouldn't shoot, but for his "goofy character" acting, I think it adds that much more to his goofiness (in a good way) and it makes me grin each time I hear it :) Im wondering if that may be kept?



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I don't think that's an SE change. At least, not that I'm aware of. He seems to make the same sound I've always heard.

 Growing up, I always seen the version where he only pulled his hand over his face to hide, but didn't make a sound. When the SE was first released, it was suddenly there. Personally, I like it with the sound.

It has to be a SE addition. I grew up with the pre-special edition VHS and it wasn't in there, but it has been ever since the SE. Anyway, I like it too :)

 In Harmy's de-specialized ESB, it is removed, if I remember right. It's really one of the rare SE changes I have a hard time coming back from!

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adywan said:

It isn't a SE change. It has been there since day one. It's just that the stereo mix omitted it . Check the story of ESB LP and it's there. I'm pretty sure it is also on one of the home releases, pre special edition, but i can't remember which one.

That is interesting.. I always figured it was one of those many SE audio alterations/additions (one that was actually for the better). I don't have the '92 VHS release to check that, but I can say with certainty Yoda's sound isn't heard in the '95 VHS release.

It sounds like it will remain then, thank you ;)

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I just checked my old ESB vhs tapes.  Yoda's "scream" is NOT in either my 1988 cbs fox video or in my 1995 thx faces tape.

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Luke missed with the grappling hook in my old ANH tape.

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Seems like it wasn't on any of the home video releases. But they used the stereo mix which also had the " this is it" line missing when Zev is killed. It was definitely there when i saw it at the cinema and it's there on the "story of".." LP, which also has the alternate " you were lucky to get out of there", and it is also there in Puggo's 8mm version, so these things are just in the different mixes, but weren't actually special edition changes.

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Are you intending on padding out the Background sound effects in Empire strikes Back?

That sounds a bit weird I know but I noticed that Empire suffers a bit compared to ANH and ROTJ in that there are many instances where stuff in the Background is mute or has background sound and then in the same location at a later time there is none. I'll rattle a few off so people don't think I am mad.

The Troops running past the falcon "this one goes there that one goes there "
The Comms center "Launch Patrol" does not sound busy enough with background noise
The Comms center evacuation scene where Han goes to get Leia the people in the Bakground are totally muted
The Hangers scene's also don't have enough background noise especially on C3PO seeing R2 off in the x-wing and Leias talk with the troops before the Hoth Battle.
Dagobah has scenes where one minute there is a lot of nature sounds and then it goes dead quiet and only the voice track is present.
The Sky train that fly's under the gantry assuming you keep that in from the SE has no sound as it comes past across the screen. Could be silent but this is star wars.
Laser Blasts from ties chasing stop all together for around a minute before the asteroid hits them. Like they had stopped chasing the falcon.

The forefront Sound effects and voicetrack are great but there are many instances you could go on and on seeing and feeling the gaps in the sound mix.

Now I understand people get upset because this is Ben Burts work but Is there any intention to pad the sound mix and bring it more up to date. That would mean going toe to toe with Ben Burt but trying to compliment what is already there, but by today's film making standards it has many holes that could do with plugging up for immersion sake at least I think so.

Padding = adding sound where there could or should be sound but not affecting the main track that stays as is. Just background stuff to fill the void. make the world more believe able.

Also on top of this there is some good excuses for panning some sounds left to right or right to left in some of those listed above for more immersion.

I put it down to budget constraints with Empire. Special Edition no excuses

One quick one had this idea a while ago but in this shot.

Did you ever think about using the DVD menu version that pans across flying at the AT-AT's I suppose it does not fit there but did you use any elements from the DVD menu animation. for the pan and follow obviously without AT-AT's in the frame. more for the underside of the speeder than anything else.

Actually just checked the DVD and the Shot of R2 outside yodas hut is really much better than the shot of R2 getting stuck on something before the cut to him being by the window miraculously.

Also one more whilst studying the SE DVD Menu's the fly by to Dagobah. I think it looks great heading towards the camera but terrible when looking at the rear of the x-wing. Would there be any way to track the intro to the original footage or use the fly by towards the camera but cut to the shot of the x-wing flying towards Dagobah. could be nice to have that coming from space shot inserted only aesthetic and that makes a symmetry perhaps between leaving Hoth and getting to Dagobah perhaps.

Anyway cool menu stuff

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Do you have a link to the EMPIRE menu?

         

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Sorry monroville i do not. it's the 2004 dvd menus for ESB.

I would have taken screen grabs but you can't play the dvd in a pc so it's from the dagobah menu and the snowspeeder flying over the trench is from the hoth menu.

and I got the shot totally wrong it's like an extension of this shot from the film. it pans across with the speeder. but for it to be useable mountains would have to be put in the background and the other menu elements removed.



You will only see the xwing fly by once on the dagobah menu after the title card and not again so you have to hope you get lucky and the dvd selects the dagobah style menu.To me this is the best of the lot.

R2 looking in Yodas hut can be seen again and again but thinking about this some more the Pan around the Hut is a bit jarring. Possibly the original shot of the hut could be used and place R2 around the back of the hut without him getting stuck. and then use the DVD menu footage of him looking in the window. To me the shot looks much better framed and it's got a slight extension to him actually lifting off the ground to peak in the window. I just think that footage of R2 looking in the window from the menu feels better. or slow the rotaion down of the pan around the hut is another way perhaps that it could work better.

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I remember those DVD menus being such a tease. They even fixed Luke's lightsabre in ANH on the menu version of him training with the remote, and still ignored it in the film itself.

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They actually didn't fix it - IIRC they used their own separate scans of the 97SE for creating the menus, so that's why everything looks better there.

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Ady....don't know if this needs addressing, perhaps you've already looked at this,...but anyway

The shot of HIC being loaded into Slave 1 is a flip shot (well the ship is):

The details on the side of the ship are different:

This is the correct detail for that side:

...as I said,...no biggie, but as I'm building the FineMolds kit (on & off for the past 5 years) you get used to the reference photos and this jumps out to me as much as a flipped Falcon image

J

EDIT: When the ship takes off it's the correct side

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Wow!

Did you build the Fine Molds model to replace the original (flipped) ship? Or is it a digital painting? Or a 3D model?

Impressive build/weathering or texturing/lighting. Either way absolutely gorgeous!

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adywan said:

Already taken care of :)

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adywan said:

Already taken care of :)

 Great guy

J

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You are a marvel, as always. ;)

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