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IronMagus said:

raphael said:

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I vote for raw, and the tape flip over gap at actual length.  ie you have to wait through the tape flipping portion.  No to patching with the soundtrack from another source, but can fill this tape flip void or other missing segments with something phun.  And please leave in the over-recorded segment, curious what was so important or a complete accident.

 

I agree with this

+1.  You could fill the gap with sound effects of a cassette tape being ejected, flipped over and restarted, even.

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I'm used to tape flips just being blank. I think adding sound effects or anything would only take away from the authenticity.

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How long is the gap between sides? And how does it start, does the recording start before the drumroll or does it begin abruptly after the movie has already started? Here's an idea I just had while lying in bed this morning and inspired by Davnes' post:

1: if the movie starts before the recording, go ahead and leave silence until the recording starts, abruptly kicking in with the sound. Otherwise just start at the Fox fanfare as normal, using a quick fade-in if the crowd noise starts too abruptly (you could leave extra seconds or minutes of crowd noise beforehand, but then it wouldn't sync up with anything that didn't also have those seconds or minutes of blank at the beginning.)

2: side 1 plays raw, unless it has to be tweaked in order to keep sync. And even then, a little bit of drift might be acceptable, but certainly wouldn't want too much.

3: at the end of side 1, do a quick fade out to a very very quiet background of the same audio track as what's depicted on the tape (very quiet). Or you could just leave it dead silent, but I was thinking something like when you watch a commentary track on DVD and they shut up for a minute, you can still sort of hear what's going on in the background.

4a: (optional, depending on time available) Narrator's voice saying something like "flip cassette over and begin playing side B now."

4b: sound effects of tape being flipped over and restarted. (background soundtrack could go silent when you "press play," until the recorded audio kicks back in.)

5: side 2 begins abruptly, no fade-in.

6: fade out right at the end if the tape goes on beyond the end of the movie. Otherwise let it stop abruptly if the tape cuts off before the credits are over. Could add sound effects here of an LP hitting its run-out groove until the end, if you didn't care about authenticity.

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The tape starts abruptly, just as the music starts. It also cuts off just as the credits start to roll.  The tape flip is quick, just a few seconds.

With regards synching it up with the Puggo Grande - the PG is in 3 parts, not 2.  So if I synced an .ac3 version to the PG, it would have the tape flip in the middle of reel 2.  Which brings me to my next question... presuming that I do create a synched version, what format should it be in be in... wav? flac? ac3?  And how would people deploy it?

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Well you could do it in lossless wav or flac format, then people could convert to whatever other form they want. Otherwise, ac3 seems pretty popular as the raw format for DVD audio. What does Blu-Ray use, same, or something else? As for what we'd be doing with it, I don't know about anyone else, but personally I would prefer a GOUT-timed sync so that I could (after I learn how, I figure it can't be too hard) add it as an additional audio track in Harmy's DeEd. 

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There are other audience recording out there, if I remember correctly. Can't those be used to fill in the gaps? Might even be worth a shot to create a combination of all the audience recordings, picking the biggest reactions of each one to make one track that's actually more lively...

Format wise, would it be possible to use different recordings for a front/back split? That way it would sound like the audience is actually all around you, and you're sitting amongst them.

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SilverWook said:


Reminds me of the Kmart brand cassettes I used back then to record the audio of tv shows. :)


You too? :-) My first recording of SW (before I got a VCR) was an HBO-audio recording I made on Kmart cassettes. I remember they came in a bag of 3, without cases. They were pretty reliable- I still have some I made of family recordings that still play.

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How's this little beauty progressing?

 

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I just sent a copy of the raw version to Erikstormtrooper, who has plans for distributing it. At some point here I'll work on synching it with PG, but for now the raw one should be available soon.  Watch the thread.

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I think we're good to go with the files.

Please PM me for links.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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I'd like one pm too pls? :)

 

 

 

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and of course, much thanks to Protocol Droid, Protocol Droid's mom, and Puggo :)

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“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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I just responded to all the PMs I had.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Thanks a lot to everyone involved. It's gonna be interesting to hear this one.

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I'd love to hear this rare piece of star wars history - PM sent :)

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I'd love to hear this as well, thanks for making this available! 

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Oh wow this sounds absolutely amazing! Surprised at the clarity/sound quality actually! That Nakamichi deck is obviously well aligned and getting the most from this tape - best tape decks ever made. Amazing to think this is an actual in-audience recording from way back. You can sense the enjoyment and awe of the audience! A superb slice of film history - A huge THANK YOU to all involved :)

Love the reaction when R2 gets zapped haha!

Back to the listening!

- 7FN

P.S. I'd LOVE George Lucas to hear this :p

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I would like to have a listen to this very much please!!