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Post #555853

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Ronster
Parent topic
Collaborative Fanediting: An ROTJ Proposition (BACK ON TRACK WITH EMANSWFAN AT THE HELM--SEE POST 1488 OR OP FOR A LINK!)
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Date created
20-Dec-2011, 9:31 PM

darth_ender said:

Just watched both your clips, Ronster.  My thoughts:

Obviously you are not a fan of Luke/Leia being brother and sister.  Your cut works surprisingly well, though it would be good to redub his line from "Then you know why I have to face him," to ""Now you know why I have to face him."  Cutting Han's jealousy worked well too.

I personally like the shuttle entering the DS.  Since it's reused ROTJ footage, and since Adywan is planning on cutting the shuttle heading to Executor in ESB, I'd suggest instead that that footage be used for the most part.

I see you like a lot of what I did :)

I know Spence put the entirety (or at the majority) of the sword fight together.  I personally like the fight split between other battles personally for at least a couple of reasons: 1) it gives the battle a feeling of greater length and therefore feels like more of a struggle; 2) the various simultaneous battles climax at about the same time instead of seeing one climax, then having a breather, then another, then a breather, etc.

Also in your rearrangement, the Executor crashes into the Death Star before the shield is down.  I suppose if we were to cut it that way it could crash into the shield instead, but we'd have to cut out the dudes running around the DS corridors.

I truly like the idea of Leia getting shot just before Vader taunts Luke about her, but it's too quick a shot to care, and we don't see her in much trouble there or afterwards.  Obviously if we were to do that, we'd have to remove her from the storming of the bunker afterwards, especially if you plan to keep her shooting those other guys when she's injured.  Or else you'd need to remove that completely and make her wound seem rather minor, which then defeats the purpose of showing her get shot.  If you found a way to make her injury not appear so overly fast and create a more perilous mood, then I could see it being more successfully pulled off.

I know I said I like ROTJ better than others which probably leaves me more willing to leave some things as they are.  I don't personally feel the need to rearrange so many of the end clips.  I really hope this doesn't offend you, and it's only my opinion.  We are a team.

As for Boba Fett, if you could successfully pull some of that stuff off (especially Boba shooting him in the hand), I'd say that's a much better way to go.  I don't much care for his head falling on the ground, but otherwise it's interesting.  The thing is that I don't know how possible it is.  It looks a bit complex for our special effects guys.

This is my feedback.  Hope you take it as constructive criticism.  I'm always open to the same for my contributions.  It's the only way to make progress.

Yes completely constructive and understand your thoughts...

Yes I am a fan of Luke & leia being brother and Sister but Luke does not tell her that she is his sister... think about that... he is also trying to protect her. Also Luke gives her away when he senses she is in pain and Vader begs Luke to tell his Sister / daughter that "you were right about me" it adds even more emotion and i could not help but see this as the way to go.

agreed on the redub if possible

like i said the 3rd act suffered too much from trying to show too much at any one time, flitting between DSII / Endor and Space battle so I decided get the plot in question out the way as much as possible in one go... and the shield should be down when the executor crashes into DSII so your right this needs to change... Perhaps Ackbar can say "The Shield is Down, Concentrate all fire power on that superstar destroyer we need to give those fighters more time" Join his big lines together is perhaps the fix move the shield generator blowing up to an earlier point most definatley

no Leia shooting the other guys although outside in my edit is actually inside.... Hope you can see what I was trying t acomplish probably flip that shot as it's on the wrong side if you feel it would work....and need CGI to be inside.

Dudes running around DS Corridors can go no problem, was just as filler.

Hey Regards leia being injured I only have the original source material to work with here so.....I did my best

I think Darth_ender we are somewhat on the same page as to trying to make the best ROTJ... I hope we do eventually. And I'm glad you watched my take on it not bad for being hungover eh?