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Post #390112

Author
Darth Chaltab
Parent topic
Avatar and Politics in general (mild spoilers)
Date created
26-Dec-2009, 2:31 PM

C3PX said:

These two statements are very much at odds with each other. It was the mainstream media who made the huge fuss about her clothing, you claim you don't pay attention to the mainstream media, yet you use their exact argument concerning her clothing. Never mind how much Biden's suites cost, no matter what Michelle Obama's dresses cost, the neanderthal woman with the silly accent is paying too much for her clothes! What is this world coming too! Just be honest Chalt's, are you really not paying attention to the mainstream media on this one?

Also, it is interesting you'd attribute opposition to health care reform as something belonging to the "far right", and assuming that Palin "twittering" about it means she is pandering, rather than genuinely caring about it herself. I am adamantly against health care reform (in the form of Obama's health care plan anyway, I do however, feel the current system needs fixed), does this mean I am pandering? Or "far right"? (everyone here would probably answer this question with a "Yes", which kind of makes me laugh).

Nobody ever accused Biden and Michelle Obama of being fiscal conservatives. I wasn't aware that blogs and websites counted as the mainstream media. I get almost none of my news from CNN, Fox, MSNBC, or news publications. I may overhear stuff on networks when others are watching, but I honestly can't stand the mainstream media and don't read or watch them as a matter of course.

Also, it is interesting you'd attribute opposition to health care reform as something belonging to the "far right", and assuming that Palin "twittering" about it means she is pandering, rather than genuinely caring about it herself.

I'm not talking about honest opposition, I'm talking about pandering to the ridiculous fears of the far right--telling supporters that there will be death panels and state-funded abortions. Lying is endemic in politics, and I'm ashamed to see someone who supposedly represents my party and its viewpoints working the crowds like that.

And while it speaks poorly of the Democrats that they can't get the much-needed health care reform passed, it is in part because of the reaction from the far right that the bill as it exists is a disaster and deserves to fail. The problem is that the tea-party crowd is by and large not interested in even beneficial health care reform. The idea of a single-payer system clearly isn't going to happen (thankfully), yet they still act like any possible bill is a bad bill. They seem to want no reform at any cost. It's the very definition of reactionary, and it's hardly the ideal that the GOP was founded on or that Reagan was talking about when he spoke of American exceptionalism.

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