Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 140

joefavs said:

Adopting a star system

The more you tighten your adoption requirements, the more star systems will slip through your red tape.

1./2. Star Wars + The Empire Strikes Back - the two masterpieces of the saga
3. The Force Awakens - a heavily needed breath of fresh air, even though the story is almost identical to SW
4. Return of the Jedi - I don’t like the story, and Harrison Ford looks like he really wants to get out as soon as possible, and the Ewoks are way too cute, but overall, still a pretty enjoyable movie
5. Attack of the Clones - my favourite of the prequels, filled with memorable scenes, and the only prequel coming close to being good.
6. The Phantom Menace - The Room of the Star Wars movies, but still filled with visually beautiful scenes
7. Rogue One - a hugely boring movie with highly unlikable characters, way too many of the “hey look, you remember this, right?” moments, hugely illogical plot. The visual effects are the most realistic from the new movies, the ships look like models, but the CGI Tarkin looks worse than the characters from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The movie has one good scene, where Vader brutally murders the rebels, so I started to be happy that the movie might start being good, and then it ended.
8. The Last Jedi - I love the way how the movie looks, it is the most beautiful looking Star Wars movie in my opinion. And that’s the only positive thing I can say about this movie
9. Revenge of the Sith - bad plot, bad acting, bad dialogue, bad cinematography, bad compositing, bad CGI. The only remotely interesting thing is the scene where Vader is burning alive.

pittrek said:

5. Attack of the Clones - my favourite of the prequels, filled with memorable scenes, and the only prequel coming close to being good.

I think you just exacerbated my Tourette’s. My eye won’t stop twitching and that’s not even one of my tics. 😦

He’s right though, I don’t think there’s any more memorable scene in a Star Wars movie than this:

pittrek said:

9. Revenge of the Sith - bad plot, bad acting, bad dialogue, bad cinematography, bad compositing, bad CGI. The only remotely interesting thing is the scene where Vader is burning alive.

I mean… I have no issues with it being your least favourite Star Wars film if that’s your opinion, but your reasons for it being the worst seem a bit hypocritical don’t they? I’ll preface this by saying I love the PT, but if we’re talking about objective qualities in the films…

bad acting

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

bad dialogue

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

bad cinematography

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

bad CGI

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

I love AOTC but the acting, dialogue, cinematography, CGI, etc. ain’t exactly great.

In fact I see most people, even those who don’t like ROTS, say it’s visually the best of the three, if not the second best.

I’m not mocking you, I just cannot fathom how, for example, anything in ROTS could be named visually worse than that picture Frink posted above. I get not liking the plot and how it’s executed, that’s all up to preference, but stuff like that I can’t wrap my head around. Care to elaborate? Honestly interested as to your perspective.

Ryan-SWI said:

In fact I see most people, even those who don’t like ROTS, say it’s visually the best of the three, if not the second best.

A lot of people here, myself included, think TPM is by far the best looking of the three, because it looks like a movie instead of a collection of videogame cutscenes.

TV’s Frink said:

Ryan-SWI said:

In fact I see most people, even those who don’t like ROTS, say it’s visually the best of the three, if not the second best.

A lot of people here, myself included, think TPM is by far the best looking of the three, because it looks like a movie instead of a collection of videogame cutscenes.

That’s what I meant, I get the argument for TPM being visually better, but I can’t see how anyone could claim AOTC is visually the best of the trilogy. Each to their own, but I don’t understand that.

Whoops I missed the “if not the second best” part of your post.

To really appreciate it you have to see the CGI robot go down the ramp in motion.

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’d still say this definitely looks miles better than anything in AOTC.

Disagree. There’s some stuff on Kamino (mainly the exterior shots) that look miles better than that scene.

I think ROTS is probably the worst because it’s trying sooo hard to be the bridge into the OT. I don’t really consider any of the PT better or worse that each in general film terms, they all just merge together. But when you’re genuinely supposed to see characters as the same people from a few decades later in the OT the third one implodes the most.

NeverarGreat said:

This is still my favorite example from ROTS.

That whole scene is rough.

Ryan-SWI said:

pittrek said:

9. Revenge of the Sith - bad plot, bad acting, bad dialogue, bad cinematography, bad compositing, bad CGI. The only remotely interesting thing is the scene where Vader is burning alive.

I mean… I have no issues with it being your least favourite Star Wars film if that’s your opinion, but your reasons for it being the worst seem a bit hypocritical don’t they? I’ll preface this by saying I love the PT, but if we’re talking about objective qualities in the films…

I don’t think we’re talking about “objective” qualities, I mean at least the stuff I wrote were my opinions, which by definition are subjective.

bad acting

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

Speaking subjectively, when I watch AOTC I see characters. When I watch ROTS I see actors trying to pretend they give a f*** about what’s going on.

bad dialogue

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

Well the AOTC dialogue doesn’t make me laugh. When I watched ROTS for the last time I was laughing the whole time, including scenes which are meant to be dramatic.

bad cinematography

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

AOTC used at least some sets, even though many (or most?) of them had at least some digital set extensions. There is not a single scene in ROTS which looks real. All of it looks like video game cutscenes with poorly composited actors.

bad CGI

I truly do not understand how AOTC can be ranked higher on your list.

I used to watch all of the “making of” documentaries on DVDs and TV specials and that kind of stuff. There was one of them many years ago, where the “talking head” said something that the sad thing about their work (he was from the effects department) is that if they do their work correctly, nobody will ever notice that they have actually done anything, or something in that matter. In other words, if I know in a scene what is real and what is CG, it immediately takes me out of the movie. In again another words, if the CGI effects don’t look real or at least blend perfectly with the rest of the scene, it’s bad CGI. Example of good CGI in recent Star Wars movies - the starships in Rogue One.

I love AOTC but the acting, dialogue, cinematography, CGI, etc. ain’t exactly great.

I agree, I wouldn’t call any of it great, but in my opinion all of these things are done better in AOTC than in ROTS.

In fact I see most people, even those who don’t like ROTS, say it’s visually the best of the three, if not the second best.

I know, and I can’t understand it. But I don’t have to understand everything.

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

This is still my favorite example from ROTS.

That whole scene is rough.

That looks GREAT! Is the game on Steam?

pittrek said:

Well the AOTC dialogue doesn’t make me laugh. When I watched ROTS for the last time I was laughing the whole time, including scenes which are meant to be dramatic.

What? It should.

Every. Single. Scene. that Anakin and Padme share, is far funnier and/or painful than anything I can think of in ROTS.

AOTC is the bottom of this barrel and I can’t believe you’re making me defend ROTS even the tiniest bit.

TV’s Frink said:

Every. Single. Scene. that Anakin and Padme share, is far funnier and/or painful than anything I can think of in ROTS.

“You’re so… beautiful.”

“It’s only because I’m so in love”

It’s funnier than the fascist picnic, at least.

JEDIT: Oops!

Twice!

LOL

Oof!