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Jp4195
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A Collaborative Star Wars Saga Edit
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16-Apr-2018, 12:26 PM

Here I’ve listed each proposed question asked on the first page and attempted to find a solution for each as well as offer some of my ideas I’ve come up with, I love discussing this stuff so this won’t be short, so bare with me younglings you’ve all really got me thinking hard here

Why does Obi-Wan say Yoda is the Jedi Master who trained him when that was clearly Qui-Gon Jinn? lines in question from ESB: “There you will learn from Yoda, the Jedi Master who instructed me.” and “Was I any different when you taught me?”

Hmm as many have suggested the line could be altered to say “A Jedi Master who instructed me” or even “The last Jedi Master who instructed me” because Yoda does say he has special training for Obi-Wan while he’s in exile (I always assumed this was learning how to become a force ghost) technically Yoda did teach him a few things but the original line makes it sound like Yoda was Obi-Wans only master

Why do Jedi wear Tatooine robes ?

I never thought about this one, the Jedi are simple folk like monks so I don’t think it would be such a stretch if they were wearing clothes similar to people living in poverty

Why is the tech level so different from OT ?

Only Lucas truly knows, but I do recall him saying on an interview that it’s the same reason why the lightsaber fights are choreographed differently simply because it was a more civilized age, the Jedi were at their height and the galaxy was a better place before the Empire. Basically everything went downhill after Palpatine took over, ships and technology were all mass produced.

Does the Rule of Two contradict contradict the Emperor and Vader trying to recruit Luke in ESB and ROTJ ?

I’m pretty sure Palpatine’s plan from the start was to turn Luke have him kill Vader and become his new and only apprentice , if his plan worked it would only be him and Luke in the end so a master and apprentice, he clearly wants Luke to kill Vader “fulfill your destiny and take your fathers place at my side”

Why is Mace Windu the only Jedi with a purple lightsaber ?

We all know the real world reason but, his saber color could always be changed or as suggested give other Jedi purple sabers to make it stand out less my personal idea would be specifically changing Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin and Kit Fisto’s sabers to purple to match Windu’s throughout their appearances (Like during the battle of Geonosis, if they are seen I don’t remember, its been a while) that way when they all show up with Mace to arrest Palpatine they all have purple sort of like they’re a specific group of Jedi that Windu leads, perhaps they’re all in the same Jedi class as him or at least on his level

Why was it never explained why Jedi Master “Sifo-Dyas” ordered the clone army ?

I never thought of that one much personally maybe that could be cut out completely and have it left ambiguous who ordered the army, maybe Dooku under Palpatine’s orders

Why does Count Dooku just tell Obi-Wan the Sith’s strategy for undermining the Senate ?

Maybe Dooku really wanted to try and turn Obi-Wan out of respect for Qui-Gon and when he realized he couldn’t he figured that he’d be killed along with Anakin and Padme in the arena thus preserving the secret

If Chewbacca always knew the Jedi were real, why didn’t he ever tell Han ?

To me this one is just a plot hole no one thought about, clearly Chewie was added in because he’s an iconic character, many suggested he be recolored and I think it would work or you could try to cut around him and just have Yoda only refer to Tarful by name

Why does Yoda run away from his fight with Palpatine ?

This always felt to me like he knew that the Jedi were outnumbered and couldn’t win at this point so rather than stay and possibly cause more harm to himself or possibly be beaten he got out while he could to meet up with Obi-Wan and Bail to decide what to do with the twins and plan for him and Obi-Wan to go into hiding until the time was right

Why does the Death Star take so long to build ?

Who really knows, maybe it took a lot longer than they anticipated, maybe Galen Erso was sabotaging it all along before adding in that one final flaw or maybe we could just not have it show up at the end and replace it with a planet instead like someone did already in one edit (don’t remember exactly who did, Hal perhaps ?)

What’s up with Anakin’s yellow Sith eyes? Why does Anakin momentarily get them but we don’t see Dooku, Luke when he almost killed Vader, or Kylo Ren ever have them?

The most likely reason is that Lucasfilm wanted the audience to know that Anakin was truly gone at that point and no longer the boy/man we’ve come to know from TPM & AOTC, I guess you could argue that Dooku isn’t really a Sith (thought palpatine does call him a sith lord) but rather a fallen Jedi as for Kylo I’d be ok with saying that he’s technically not a Sith either or at least not fully, sure he’s turned to the dark side but he’s still conflicted. If someone wanted to be clever I could see Dooku and Kylo getting Sith eyes at some point maybe have Dooku with them from the get go and have Kylo get them when he kills Han or just cut Palpatine saying “he’s a Sith lord” and recolor or cut Anakin’s in that shot or shots, though I do prefer him getting them during or after order 66, Dooku always having them and Kylo getting them after killing Han

How exactly is Leia a princess ?

I was always under the impression that Bail and his wife were some kind of royalty, are they not ?

Why didn’t the Imperials just shoot the escape pod ?

IDK lol they didn’t want to waste ammo shooting something that had no life signs present ??

Why’d they hide Luke on Vader’s home planet and even have him keep the Skywalker name ?

It’s a pretty safe bet that Vader or the Empire would never look for him there (Especially Vader because he hates that planet, plus he and Palpatine think that the baby is dead along with Padme) as for the last name part, I don’t think the film makers really thought of this one maybe Skywalker isn’t that uncommon of a name plus Tatooine is a backwater planet filled with scum and villainy, what purpose would the empire have for going there anyway, they never show up there until they realize that 3PO and R2 landed there

Why does 3PO mention the princess on board Tantive IV, then doesn’t know about the princess when he is with Luke ? / Ady handled this in original Revisited by removing 3PO’s first line on ship. He reinserted it in the Purist edition though.

Plot hole, probably just an oversite or perhaps 3PO isn’t as big of a blabber mouth as we thought I’d say Ady had the right idea cutting the line, maybe if anyone wanted to keep the line they could change it to “They’ll be no escape this time” or “They’ll be no escape for us this time”

Why doesn’t R2 tell Luke anything about the past ?

I always thought of R2 as the more responsible of the pair, he doesn’t want to tell Luke anything to begin with, in fact he doesn’t want to show him Leia’s message in the first place it plays by accident and he denies that there was ever a message 3PO says to him “What message ? the one you just played, its ok R2 you can trust him he’s our new master” as for him not telling him anything after or during ESB or ROTJ I think that’s going way to far into it lol

Why did Obi-Wan age so much between trilogies ?

I don’t think there is a real answer to this one I’d just try to look past this one, maybe training to be a force ghost takes a lot out of you, or maybe the Obi-Wan movie(s) sill tell us if they ever come out

Why didn’t Obi-Wan change his last name (Ben Kenobi) while in exile ?

I guess the same reason why they didn’t change Luke’s last name, I don’t think the Empire is searching for him or Yoda after order 66 plus Tatooine is in the outer rim and obviously nobody there has ever heard of an Obi-Wan Kenobi or cares at least, to them he’s just an old hermit and a crazy wizard

Why doesn’t Obi-Wan remember R2 or 3PO ?

I always liked to think he did but just like everything else he told Luke about, he was very vague hes clearly in shock looking at R2 when Luke says “He says he belongs to an Obi-Wan Kenobi, is he a relative of yours” ?

“Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough…”

Another plot hole but can easily be fixed as per the other suggestions on the forum, I personally like “I wanted you to have this when you were old enough” or “Your father would have wanted you to have this when you were old enough”

Why did the Death Star need to travel around the moon to destroy the rebel base? Couldn’t it just blow it up ?

I think its subtle enough to just leave it alone or you can assume Tarkin is a sicko and wanted Leia to have a good view of her home being destroyed, maybe they were aiming right at the capitol where daddy Organa was chillin out

Are stormtroopers clones ?

I’d say yes but they clearly were never meant to be until AOTC came along because they all sound different, can we give them all Jango’s voice lol maybe redub all the troopers in the prequels with different voices ? maybe they can all look, like Jango physically but each sound different for some kind of individuality ?

How did Luke get around the blockade of Hoth ?

Got me there, used the force maybe ? tried spinning that’s a good trick ?
Why does the Empire only disable the Millennium Falcon hyperdrive and not the whole ship ?
I don’t think there is a definitive answer to this one, honestly id just forget that fact all together the empire is really dumb sometimes after all

Luke became a Jedi by training with Yoda for only a few days ?

Remember his training wasn’t complete when he rushed to face Vader in ESB, Yoda says this in ROTJ I personally always thought it had been longer but Snooker had the best idea imo in putting that he had been training with Yoda in the crawl of ROTJ or that he had just finished his training and is on his way to Tatooine to help rescue Han

Why does Obi-Wan call Luke their “last hope” in ESB if he knows about Leia ?

To inspire Luke maybe, more deception or points of view perhaps ? maybe because Leia isn’t a Jedi and probably has no chance against Vader or the Emperor alone unless she trains and Luke has trained and at least stands a better chance

Where did the second Death Star come from? How did they build it so fast ?

I love the ideas presented that there was only one Death Star and they are repairing it in ROTJ or once again Snookers excellent idea of there not being a Death Star at all rather a huge Star Destroyer as the weapon also serving as the Emperor’s personal ship/base

What was Luke’s plan to save Han ?

Was there ever a plan to begin with ? maybe his plan was exactly what happen (with the exception of the Ranchor and Sarlacc) once again I turn to Snooker for answers in his Revenge of The Jedi edit, where he changes the crawl and re orders the first act

Why didn’t Yoda and Obi-Wan just tell Luke the truth about Vader ?

I guess he and Obi-Wan felt like it was too much to handle at the time, maybe they figured he’d react by “Rushing to face him” like he did in ESB ?
How can Leia remember her mother, when Padme died in childbirth ?
She was technically alive after giving birth and spoke to Obi-Wan before dying but plot hole again lol someone had Leia be born first instead of Luke in one edit of ROTS so she actually see’s Padme for a bit, still I doubt a newborn can recognize anyone and remember details mere moments out of the womb but I quite like that idea instead of just cutting the line altogether

Leia is Luke’s sister? Incest vibes ?

NOPE cut this out entirely lol though to be fair crazy stuff like long lost siblings meeting and marrying have happened in real life plus they had no idea at the time, still id agree in cutting this come to think of it what if Han left and Luke and Leia got together during ESB and Leia got knocked up, by the time Luke found out it would be to late and Obi-Wan and Yoda inadvertently would have allowed incest to happen especially Obi-Wan because he could clearly could see Luke had a thing for Leia in ANH

“Obi-Wan once thought as you do…”

Id be all for changing it to “Your mother once thought as you do” or “Your mother, Padme once thought as you do” can it be done ?

Why does Vader suggest destroying the Emperor in ESB, but then practically be his lap dog in ROTJ ?

I don’t think it was all an act but I just assumed that by this point he could do nothing to turn Luke or get him to help him so rather than try on his own he just gave up

How can two trees destroy an armored battle vehicle like an AT-ST ?

IDK about this one either, they were pretty big trees though lol

How did the Ewoks have a dress in Leia’s size ?

Luck, they measured her ? who’s to say I think like quite a few of these its best not to think to much about it

How did Anakin know how to become a force ghost ?

How indeed, id just leave old Anakin from the theatrical versions or get a less creepy shot of Hayden from somewhere smiling warmly at his son

Why do all the force ghosts appear to Luke as he knew them in his life, except Anakin ?

Lucas explained it as Anakin becoming the person he was again before turning, which I guess works well enough though there’s no guarantee that Luke would know who he was, still id say he could figure it out on his own

What’s the deal with the First Order ?

Someone suggested putting in the crawl that they were formed out of the last remnants of the Empire, I never had an issue with where they came from originally but if you really want to connect everything it would probably be best to mention that the Resistance formed from the last remnants of the Republic as well

Where did Snoke come from ?

I really hope Episode 9 answers this because I too really want to know, until then though maybe he could be put in in place of one of Palpatine’s body guards ?

What’s the relationship between the New Republic and the Resistance ?

You guys are on your own with this one, I got nothing

How does Rey speak Wookiee ?

Does she or does she learn when spending time with him in her search for Luke between TFA & TLJ ?

How did Poe Dameron survive the crash landing on Jakku ?

I’m sure many of us know that he wasn’t supposed to, originally and it was decided way later on that he would, the best I could come up with is to just leave it to the imagination and take his word for it OR ad a little parachute way in the distance of Jakku after the crash to suggest he ejected before impact

Has Han never really used Chewbacca’s gun ?

I’m willing to accept that he didn’t, I mean has Chewie fired Han’s blaster ?

What happened to Finn’s blaster at Maz’s castle ?

I have a feeling a deleted scene could explain this

Why does Kylo Ren’s scar look so different than it did at the end of TFA ?

You’re our only hope Sir Ridley

Why can’t the First Order send another ship to flank the Resistance? Why don’t they swarm them with TIE fighters ?

EHHH can someone pull an Adywan and add a few being shot down ?

Why isn’t hyper speed ramming more of a thing ?

Maybe it could be but no one ever wants to do it because its suicide

Why does Anakin’s lightsaber seem to change color between the movies ?

This is most obviously a stylistic change or unintentional but I’ve seen many a talented people do some amazing rotoscoping and recolors on these forums, I’m sure someone could make all the lightsaber cores match throughout if not just Anakin’s/Luke’s