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fmalover
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Most Disappointing / Satisfying Aspect of the Sequel Trilogy?
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14-Apr-2018, 4:47 PM

TV’s Frink said:

fmalover said:

Most disappointing aspect:
The Force Awakens. I don’t understand why so many like what is essentially SW 2.0, the FO is made up of what’s left of the Empire yet still has the resources to build a third Death Star about twenty times the size of the original, plus there’s a line of dialogue from Rose in Canto Bight which is “there’s only one job that can make you this wealthy in the Galaxy… Selling to the FO”. So, despite being reduced to a mere fraction of what once was the FO has apparently retained the Empire’s vast wealth. WTF?
I also didn’t like Finn being a total buffoon in TFA, and as for Rey, while I like her as a character I want you to imagine the following: picture a girl from a third world country who grew up in the slums scraping through garbage but guess what, she’s a capable hand-to-hand fighter, can fly aeroplanes, drive motorbikes and is pretty knowledgeable in mechanical engineering. Congratulations, you just pictured Rey, and her being so skilled at just about everything is what annoys me the most.

You only did half of the assignment.

Connection problems, my friend.

Reading my own post and thinking about it a little better the actual most disappointing aspect of the ST is in fact the whole set-up. The FO being an unstoppable military force despite being made up of the remnants of the Empire that is capable of dismantling a galaxy wide New Republic is by far the most illogical aspect of the story. Not just that, as previously stated in my post they are also implied to be wealthy enough to afford the best ships and weapons money can buy. So all it took to defeat the New Republic was the destruction of a mere five planets? Did the NR concentrate all their military fleet on those five planets? They don’t have a galaxy-wide fleet or at the very least patrols? And as Mr. Plinkett said in his prequel reviews, if you need expanded material like books and such to explain the gaps in logic within your movie then the movie is a failure. To say J. J. Abrams masterfully set up the story is disingenuous. It’s almost as if after WW2 the Nazis who fled to South America had unified the populations of those countries under one banner, developed nuclear bombs, trained a massive military force consisting of a super navy, a super air force all in the span of thirty years and in 1975 launched a coordinated nuclear strike all across Europe that obliterated all capital cities and all European countries meekly surrendered without a fight.

I didn’t mind Rey being naturally strong in the Force and picking up a few tricks with ease, it’s entirely possible she earned some knowledge by reading Kylo Ren’s mind, but I do have a problem with her being talented at everything when her daily routine consists of scavenging ship parts.

One thing I say the pre-Disney EU got right was the Imperial Remnant, which IMO is far more believable than the FO, where what’s left of the Empire is forced to get creative with their tactics and in the end since they still firmly believe in the Empire they reach an agreement with the NR and are granted their own slice of the Galaxy where they are allowed to rule themselves independently of the Republic. I think the FO should have been a sort of fanatical group of imperialists that unlike the open warfare tactics of their predecessors rely on deception, espionage, infiltration, guerilla warfare, kidnappings, forced conversion, terrorism and their members have a cult-like mentality, you know, starting small, conquering seemingly unimportant planets, enslaving the best scientific minds in the Galaxy forcing them to develop technology that gives them an edge in combat… You guys get the gist of it, but instead it’s almost as if the Empire let the Rebels win thirty years ago because they were bored or something.

I think I’ve ranted enough about how poorly set up the ST is, now I will talk about the most satisfying aspect of the ST: The Last Jedi.
Not only do I think the movie is flawlessly made, I also love the fact that it spits right in the face of TFA and all of its dumb ideas. Characters that didn’t work for me are made a lot more appealing, like Finn, who goes from being the buffoon in TFA and really matures into a hero willing to die for the greater good. Kylo Ren came off as an immature whiner in TFA, but here you really feel how emotionally unstable he is as a person, impulsively killing Snoke, being fooled by Luke’s diversion on Crait due to an urge to get even with his former master. It’s a shame Rose isn’t present when DJ reveals the people who sell to the FO are the same who sell to the NR, it would have taught her to not be so idealistic. Now this is a matter of personal preference but I would have switched Rose with Paige because I find Paige to be physically way more attractive than her younger sister.