Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 137

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’ll give you credit for trying to explain even though I disagree with you on so many things. With that said…

Collipso said:

RotS is fifth because I never had to accept the PT like most of you here, and because of that I feel like I’m more open to appreciating them.

I have zero idea what this means.

I never had expectations. I was never left feeling very underwhelmed by those movies. They were always part of SW to me. They always gave me a very different feeling than the OT, a feeling I now know to be slightly worse, but just slightly. So, since RotS was always there for me, I think I’m more open to appreciate it than I am to appreciate TFA for example, since I saw TFA in theaters and had expectations and was left underwhelmed, etc.

Does this make sense?

It doesn’t make sense to me because the movies are all objectively terrible and it doesn’t matter if you had any expectations or not.

I don’t think they are objectively terrible at all. In terms of critics, the consensus tends to be that RotS > AotC > TPM. Apparently out of the 6 Lucas films, RotS was the 2nd best reviewed upon release. I don’t think that makes it objectively terrible.

Oh, you forgot that Frink is right and deems what is objectively poor art. Like how I can deem what is good music.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

how about…

5. Revenge of the Sith
6. The Last Jedi/Attack of the Clones
7. The Force Awakens

How about…no, that’s silly.

What a productive comment.

It’s like you’ve never seen my posts before.

I wish I swooped in before you commented so I could predict exactly what you would say.

It’s like you want me to be someone other than me.

No. Just less of you.

Have you seen my post count?

You might as well ask the sun to stop shining.

I think you misunderstand. There’s an ratio between funny Frink and asshole Frink. There is a sweet spot and your not hitting it.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

I’ll give you credit for trying to explain even though I disagree with you on so many things. With that said…

Collipso said:

RotS is fifth because I never had to accept the PT like most of you here, and because of that I feel like I’m more open to appreciating them.

I have zero idea what this means.

I never had expectations. I was never left feeling very underwhelmed by those movies. They were always part of SW to me. They always gave me a very different feeling than the OT, a feeling I now know to be slightly worse, but just slightly. So, since RotS was always there for me, I think I’m more open to appreciate it than I am to appreciate TFA for example, since I saw TFA in theaters and had expectations and was left underwhelmed, etc.

Does this make sense?

It doesn’t make sense to me because the movies are all objectively terrible and it doesn’t matter if you had any expectations or not.

I don’t think they are objectively terrible at all. In terms of critics, the consensus tends to be that RotS > AotC > TPM. Apparently out of the 6 Lucas films, RotS was the 2nd best reviewed upon release. I don’t think that makes it objectively terrible.

Oh, you forgot that Frink is right and deems what is objectively poor art. Like how I can deem what is good music.

Stop being silly. They are extraordinarily poorly made films. If you don’t think so, I don’t know what to tell you. I can throw pans at a wall and call it music but that doesn’t make it true just because I say it’s music.

TPM is probably the best of the three because it’s the closest to an actual film.

Stop being silly. RoTS has an 79% critic rating on RT. Don’t act like everyone agrees with you (and to add, I mostly do myself).

TV’s Frink said:

I know everyone doesn’t agree with me. That doesn’t make them right.

My whole point Frink is that there is no objectively “right” opinion on a movie. If there is one, then show me where the source of those opinions would be.

The prequels really do suck tho lmao.

In both our opinions they do. But oh well, this argument never goes anywhere.

Fellow geeks, nerds and those who are almost passable as functioning adults…

It’s just a ranking thread - it means little at the end of the day; some films are liked more than others, for what could be considered the ‘strangest’ or personal of reasons - and we know from posting on the ot.com we each have our quirks, eccentricities and somewhat different views. And opinions, even previously staunch ones, may change over time…

Some people may only actually give a stuff about 5/6 films and just include others for the sake of being completionist.

This all really isn’t worth getting worked up over - please stop with the circular and repetitive arguments that your opinion is right and someone else’s is wrong, or that someone should rank film X over film Y. It’s tiresome and come a point where members are reluctant to post in here for getting ridiculed or told they are ‘wrong’.

By all means ask why someone feels why film X is over film Y - yet do it with some respect and civility - we may even learn something…

Some people love their first ever car (which may be a piece of shite to many others), some have a special place for their first crush or love (NOT still being kept in a dungeon), or the first hi-fi they saved up for with pocket money or from their 1st wage etc. You don’t ridicule them for it - so please don’t have a pop at someone for liking The Holiday Special over Empire etc…
 

As for the trolls who may have frequented here in the past… in a LOTR voiceover stylee… the ‘age of trolls’ on the OT.com is over. That doesn’t mean wide-ranging views and passionate, yet civil, discourse is over - it’s the very opposite; the thing is to keep it civil and have a bit of respect for each other.
 

TL;DR - the mods are trying to get some kip - so please keep the noise down in here and make an effort to get along. Thanks 😃

Here’s mine. Again. Just for the kick in the head, I suppose.

1. SW/ESB
2. RotJ/R1

TV’s Frink said:

I guess, but I honestly feel that anyone who doesn’t think that is either trolling or kidding themselves.

Um, nah I’ve thought my opinion on the prequels through many times, I don’t think I’m kidding myself.

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

TV’s Frink said:

I guess, but I honestly feel that anyone who doesn’t think that is either trolling or kidding themselves.

Um, nah I’ve thought my opinion on the prequels through many times, I don’t think I’m kidding myself.

Yeah but how would you know?

it isn’t hard to realize you’re trying to fool yourself.

Yeah exactly, whenever I’m “kidding myself” about a movie and loving it for no real reason I come to terms with what I thought about the movie in a day or so. My opinion on the prequels has stuck for a long time now.

Tyrphanax said:

1. Star Wars — Weaker than Empire in terms of story and depth, but totally self-contained and so much fun. I can just throw this on when I need a comfort film. 5/5 (in Star Wars terms)
2. The Empire Strikes Back — The strongest entry to date. In my world, definitely cinema’s strongest sequel. Expands the characters, sets up a big universe, introduces great new characters (especially Boba Fett) and locations, doesn’t take a dump on the romance, and has a whole new and deeper wonder to it than the first film. 5(.5?)/5
3. Return of the Jedi — This is only so far up because of its place wrapping up the story of the OT. The duel between Luke, Vader, and the Emperor save the film. The rest of it is rehashed or phoned-in. Feels more like a contract film than the passion of Star Wars and Empire. 4/5
4. Rogue One — Probably the best of the Post-Lucas Star Wars films. It’s nostalgic, it has a (mostly) tight, solid story that fits (mostly) flush with the universe of the OT that we all know backwards and forwards, and does a good job of expanding that universe without feeling too forced. Is it safe? Hell yes. Is it fan service? In many ways. Is that really such a bad thing? I don’t think so. I enjoy the hell out of this movie. If you don’t pump your fist when the X-Wings show up on Eadu, you may not have a pulse. 3.5/5
5. The Force Awakens — I was really all for TFA when it dropped originally. I loved the characters even if the story was a rehash of a rehash, even having to relearn the state of the galaxy during the runtime, and even dealing with Abrams’ unsolved mysteries. But the more I thought about it, the more the issues outweighed the good. I was starting to come around on it again before the release of TLJ, but now it has been dragged down by TLJ not living up to the promise of TFA. 3.5/5
6. The Last Jedi — I really wanted to be blown away by this movie. I tried to be blown away by it three times in theaters and more than a few times at home, but it just falls short of the mark. It lands among the Prequel Trilogy for me: good ideas, interesting characters, not taking the safe route, but not executed well. I wish they’d gone a bit safer. 3/5
7. Revenge of the Sith — This is only as high as it is because of the potential of the basic story and the culmination of Anakin’s fall. It’s definitely the strongest of the PT, but it’s still weak. The quality gap between Jedi and Awakens is almost non-existant, the gap between Awakens and Sith is a good deal more than 12 parsecs. 3/5
8. The Phantom Menace — I feel like this is the only PT film that has a Star Wars feel to it, because they used actual locations and props extensively. However, it’s also the only PT film that doesn’t really fit in the “Saga”. This is an Anthology film and nothing more. 2.5/5
9. Attack of the Clones — This goes way down here because it’s frankly crap, especially when it should be one of the biggest and best films of the Saga. The Clone Wars we’ve heard so much about don’t start until the last quarter of the film, and then end in the next film. There was potential, and much like the entire PT, the basic story concepts are good but executed terribly. 2/5

The Holiday Special and the Clone Wars film I won’t count as The Holiday Special was TV-only, and the Clone Wars “film” was basically just two episodes of the show, one of which was one of the worst of the entire series and the other wasn’t particularly strong, there were arcs much more deserving of being in theaters than what was.

I still haven’t sat down and watched the Ewok films. I think that’s about it in terms of what’s out there.

I think this is my most recent post in here with an actual ranking so let’s amend The Last Jedi and Rogue One in there and update scores.

TV’s Frink said:

It looks to me like they tried to make her look younger. But whatever, IMO she looks completely different in that shot than in the rest of the movie, however they did it or whatever their intention was. And it looks bad.

I’m with you on this one. Definitely looks not good.

TV’s Frink said:

Tyrphanax said:

TV’s Frink said:

It looks to me like they tried to make her look younger. But whatever, IMO she looks completely different in that shot than in the rest of the movie, however they did it or whatever their intention was. And it looks bad.

I’m with you on this one. Definitely looks not good.

Oh no you don’t.

Just this once?