Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 705

Mrebo said:

Trouble with pessimism is not taking chances or appreciating a good thing until after it’s gone.

However, the benefits of pessimism include not taking chances, and seeing rose-tinted nostalgia glasses for what they are.

What does “not taking chances” have to do with pessimism?

If one is pessimistic about an effort being successful they’re liable to not try, I reckon.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Mrebo said:

If one is pessimistic about an effort being successful they’re liable to not try, I reckon.

I know this to be true from personal experience.

Not from my person experience. I’m reckless. That’s what’s magical about humanity, we’re all unique in the way we make mistakes. Everybody fucks things up differently and for different reasons and that’s really a beautiful thing.

Jeebus said:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/there-is-no-epidemic-of-mass-school-shootings.html

Whoa get out of here with your facts! Haven’t you heard that you’re only supposed to deal in emotions and feelings?!

The 43 departures of the Trump Administration in the style of an Animaniacs tune…

https://twitter.com/electrolemon/status/978729859361923072

moviefreakedmind said:

What does “not taking chances” have to do with pessimism?

I was taking that to mean that the assumption that things could always get worse makes you more risk-averse than the assumption that things could always get better (in the case of making a decision without many facts to support either position, gut feelings rank higher).

CatBus said:

moviefreakedmind said:

What does “not taking chances” have to do with pessimism?

I was taking that to mean that the assumption that things could always get worse makes you more risk-averse than the assumption that things could always get better (in the case of making a decision without many facts to support either position, gut feelings rank higher).

I suppose I could see that, but there’s also the benefit of being so pessimistic you don’t even care about negative consequences. That’s probably just apathy though.

The right-wing response to the Parkland survivors’ demand for gun-control has done more to expose how evil the right wing is than any exposé liberals have ever done.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865

(Sec. 2) This bill expresses the sense of Congress that section 230 of the Communications Act of 1934 was not intended to provide legal protection to websites that unlawfully promote and facilitate prostitution and websites that facilitate traffickers in advertising the sale of unlawful sex acts with sex trafficking victims. Section 230 limits the legal liability of interactive computer service providers or users for content they publish that was created by others.

(Sec. 3) The bill amends the federal criminal code to add a new section that imposes penalties—a fine, a prison term of up to 10 years, or both—on a person who, using a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce, owns, manages, or operates an interactive computer service (or attempts or conspires to do so) to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person.

Websites have long been protected from liability for what its users do. The fact that this law allows criminal and civil penalties against a website that “facilitates” is problematic, if one cares about the internet remaining as open as it has been. Craigslist has closed its personals section in response to passage of this bill.

Now that there is a crack in the dam, how long before big copyright holders convince the government there should be liability for a website that “facilitates” copyright infringement? What other issues are important enough that the websites themselves should face criminal and civil claims?

Possessed said:

Idk but if fanedits becoming harder to get means human trafficking is harder to do then I’m more than okay with it.

The internet facilitates a lot. If this law only targeted sites that promote crimes, I would be on board.

edit: even allowing liability for “promoting” copyright infringement would be problematic, but it is a narrower kind of culpability and site owners can take reasonable steps to protect themselves. And like you, I’d like to prevent human trafficking.

The bill does state that there must be “the intent to promote or facilitate.” As narrow as it sounds with the “intent” requirement, it is very risky to websites who can’t trust that an honest declaration of their lacking bad intent will absolve them of culpability. Thus craigslist which I don’t think “intends” to facilitate sex crimes closes its personals section. Legally, the risk is too great, even with good intent.

Possessed said:

Idk but if fanedits becoming harder to get means human trafficking is harder to do then I’m more than okay with it.

A noble goal, but dangerous thinking.

moviefreakedmind said:

The right-wing response to the Parkland survivors’ demand for gun-control has done more to expose how evil the right wing is than any exposé liberals have ever done.

Yeah it certainly doesn’t help the discussion to be bashing children, even if they’re wrong.

Tyrphanax said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The right-wing response to the Parkland survivors’ demand for gun-control has done more to expose how evil the right wing is than any exposé liberals have ever done.

Yeah it certainly doesn’t help the discussion to be bashing children, even if they’re wrong.

I’ve not commented on this because there is no use. There are those on the right who responded badly and those who responded well. Obviously the poor responses are going to get the attention and feed the narrative one wants to feed.

I previously posted about the March for Life, which is composed of many youths who flood DC every year for the protest. In response to that event, it was stated:

moviefreakedmind said:

I hate everybody at the women’s march and I hate everybody at the march for life and I hope the ground splits open and all of them fall into the Earth. Sounds fair and unbiased to me.

TV’s Frink said:

Fuck those assholes.

I didn’t remark then that it is composed of so many youths, but I don’t know that that would matter to anyone here.