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Important step toward drug legalization.
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The blue elephant in the room.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
The Person in Question
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It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
nevermind.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
Yeah that’s not the problem.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
Those Damn potheads with their Damn herbs with tons of proven medicinal benefits with none of the side effects of pharmaceutical drugs participating in a relaxing session of weed consumption that is incomparably safer and less intoxicating than alcohol sitting at home playing games and eating potato chips, hurting no one including themselves. Scumbags that must be stopped I say!
May help to know what drug crimes mfm would like to do away with - all of them?
The blue elephant in the room.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
lol
Warbler’s proposal is crazy enough that it might just work.
The blue elephant in the room.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.
Nope, we need to change our fascist police-state problem and legalize all drugs.
Warbler’s proposal is crazy enough that it might just work.
Unjust laws deserve to be broken.
The Person in Question
I think all drugs should be legal without restriction. That way people that want to do them can do so without hurting anybody, and if they die it’s their own fault and our overpopulated planet would probably be better off. Let people hurt themselves if they want to, making them illegal is only causing people to Engage in other activities that are actually criminal to get it.
It won’t do anything to correct the unjust mass-incarceration in this country. Don’t get too excited yet.
I know what would, people just need to stop breaking the law.nevermind.
I think all drugs should be legal without restriction. That way people that want to do them can do so without hurting anybody, and if they die it’s their own fault and our overpopulated planet would probably be better off. Let people hurt themselves if they want to, making them illegal is only causing people to Engage in other activities that are actually criminal to get it.
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Warbler’s proposal is crazy enough that it might just work.
Making Donald Trump president is crazy enough that it might just work.
Hahahahahahaha.
I think all drugs should be legal without restriction. That way people that want to do them can do so without hurting anybody, and if they die it’s their own fault and our overpopulated planet would probably be better off. Let people hurt themselves if they want to, making them illegal is only causing people to Engage in other activities that are actually criminal to get it.
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Full legalization would also cripple organized crime, saving a lot of lives. Sure, they’d find something else to make money with, but not in the staggering numbers something like, say, the cocaine trade brings in.
What about the children of parents hooked on hard drugs?
The blue elephant in the room.
Children can be taken from their parents due to neglect even if they don’t use drugs, so I don’t see the issue you think you’re raising.
Children can be taken from their parents due to neglect even if they don’t use drugs, so I don’t see the issue you think you’re raising.
You have to find neglect. There are already plenty of neglected kids that suffer with parents addicted to hard drugs. If hard drugs are legal I think the problem will be more widespread. And if hard drugs are legal, do you think that should or should not be a basis for deciding on child custody between divorced parents? Should evidence of hard drug use justify social services going into a home to at least temporarily take away children? Basically, are you going to pretend that hard drug use by parents doesn’t pose an inherent threat to children?
The blue elephant in the room.
if hard drugs are legal, do you think that should or should not be a basis for deciding on child custody between divorced parents?
Of course it should.
Should evidence of hard drug use justify social services going into a home to at least temporarily take away children?
Of course it should.
Basically, are you going to pretend that hard drug use by parents doesn’t pose an inherent threat to children?
Of course it does.
You know what else does? Alcoholism.
if hard drugs are legal, do you think that should or should not be a basis for deciding on child custody between divorced parents?
Of course it should.
Should evidence of hard drug use justify social services going into a home to at least temporarily take away children?
Of course it should.
Basically, are you going to pretend that hard drug use by parents doesn’t pose an inherent threat to children?
Of course it does.
You know what else does? Alcoholism.
I think hard drug use poses a far greater threat to children. If I see a parent buying a bottle of hard liquor versus buying meth, I’m going to have a very different view of that, as it seems you would also. If hard drugs have a lessened stigma and are more readily available, more people are going to use. Parents addicted to hard drugs may let their children be exploited in addition to neglecting them. For this increased negative possibility, the benefit is what? Greater freedom for people to mess their lives up as drug addicts?
The blue elephant in the room.
If hard drugs have a lessened stigma and are more readily available, more people are going to use.
This is actually demonstrably false. Look at the statistics in Portugal since they decriminalized.
Full legalization would be a little different, sure, but I strongly doubt you’d see an increase in hard drug use with that either.
For this increased negative possibility, the benefit is what? Greater freedom for people to mess their lives up as drug addicts?
Oh, let’s see…fewer people incarcerated for nonviolent offenses, less money being poured into a losing “war on drugs,” fewer deaths from gangs and organized crime since any black market in drugs post-legalization would be massively less profitable than it currently is under criminalization…just to name three things.
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What about the children of parents hooked on hard drugs?
Well, in the current system their kids are addicted to hard drugs, in danger of getting shot to death in drug-deal related violence, and in danger of spending their lives in prison (and death is much better than decades in American prisons).
The Person in Question
if hard drugs are legal, do you think that should or should not be a basis for deciding on child custody between divorced parents?
Of course it should.
Should evidence of hard drug use justify social services going into a home to at least temporarily take away children?
Of course it should.
Basically, are you going to pretend that hard drug use by parents doesn’t pose an inherent threat to children?
Of course it does.
You know what else does? Alcoholism.
I think hard drug use poses a far greater threat to children. If I see a parent buying a bottle of hard liquor versus buying meth, I’m going to have a very different view of that, as it seems you would also. If hard drugs have a lessened stigma and are more readily available, more people are going to use. Parents addicted to hard drugs may let their children be exploited in addition to neglecting them. For this increased negative possibility, the benefit is what? Greater freedom for people to mess their lives up as drug addicts?
This strikes a nerve with me. You chose meth because it’s the obvious worst example, but the amount of children abused by drunken parents is staggering. All of the crap you listed is common in the homes of children living with parents that are severe alcoholics. For you to downplay it sickens me.
EDIT: Basically, I’m tired of this hypocrisy. Alcohol ruins more lives than hard drugs do. If you or anyone else are going to pretend to care about drug-users and the children (somebody think of the children!) then you have to be in favor of criminalizing alcohol too. If you’re not, then you’re a hypocrite.
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