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moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

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That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Firstly, it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

Secondly, as I’ve said previously, if you want to discuss a particular policy issue with me, feel free to raise it. Tell me what it was that I previously defended that is at fault for the hopelessness.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

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Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Also, this really needs to be retired. It was great when Luke said it and immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it, and it this point it’s been said far too often even if it wasn’t immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it.

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TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

The idea that I must agree with anybody and everybody in a GOP administration is absurd. I didn’t even vote for it. Also, I wager there are any number of things the last administration did that didn’t align with your particular views. If you supported the last administration, I don’t think that means you supported every policy. mfm occasionally champions individual perspective and experience, as he did in response to the NYT article, but then seems to forget that individuals exist.

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Mrebo said:

Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.

Also, this really needs to be retired. It was great when Luke said it and immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it, and it this point it’s been said far too often even if it wasn’t immediately terrible when anyone else started saying it.

I don’t disagree but it fit and mfm’s post was no less tired than that response.

The blue elephant in the room.

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So, nobody watched the 60 Minutes Stormy Daniels interview? I hope no one was eating when she revealed her shocking secret. 😛

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I caught an unfortunate soundbite. My SO had the remote and mercifully changed the channel quickly.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

The idea that I must agree with anybody and everybody in a GOP administration is absurd. I didn’t even vote for it. Also, I wager there are any number of things the last administration did that didn’t align with your particular views. If you supported the last administration, I don’t think that means you supported every policy. mfm occasionally champions individual perspective and experience, as he did in response to the NYT article, but then seems to forget that individuals exist.

I have no idea what the connection is between my post and yours.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

I didn’t ignore anything, I just added to it. SENTENCE DELETED BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

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Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Mrebo said:

it’s absurd to suggest Trump acts according to an ideology.

The administration is more than just the President, especially when the President is someone who doesn’t give a shit about doing his job and just puts the worst possible people in place to do the actual governing.

The idea that I must agree with anybody and everybody in a GOP administration is absurd. I didn’t even vote for it. Also, I wager there are any number of things the last administration did that didn’t align with your particular views. If you supported the last administration, I don’t think that means you supported every policy. mfm occasionally champions individual perspective and experience, as he did in response to the NYT article, but then seems to forget that individuals exist.

I didn’t forget that individuals exist.

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TV’s Frink said:

And another fun day in Trump’s America.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/miguel-perez-jr-army-veteran-with-ptsd-who-served-two-tours-in-afghanistan-deported-to-mexico.html

That’s insane. Even if one strongly believed that an illegal immigrant is illegal and that’s that, if the government wanted to deport him, it shouldn’t have allowed him to serve the government in the first place.

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Trump Administration kicks out 60 Russian “diplomats.”

One diplomat for every minute of Stormy’s interview. Take that fake media!

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I didn’t even mention that Trump is trying once again to ban transgender people from serving our country in the military, which is nothing more than the action of a vindictive asshole.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

I didn’t ignore anything, I just added to it. SENTENCE DELETED BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

Lol.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

I didn’t ignore anything, I just added to it. SENTENCE DELETED BECAUSE I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

Lol.

What’s so funny?

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You seem to have figured out what I said halfway through your post. Maybe I misunderstood your post though.

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Kind of, I wrote something harsher and then deleted half of it in editing because I thought that you meant that I understood the article but chose to ignore it. So in response I to that I wrote a sentence about how mean you are, but deleted it once I reread your post. I didn’t say that I needed to stage an exodus from the forum because of you, though. You didn’t push me quite that far 😉

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If you have a problem with me, come out say it and stop with the jokes/insults at my expense.

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Warbler said:

If you have a problem with me, come out say it and stop with the jokes/insults at my expense.

How do you know he wasn’t talking about ender?

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TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

If you have a problem with me, come out say it and stop with the jokes/insults at my expense.

How do you know he wasn’t talking about ender?

I suppose that is possible. But even so, I still don’t like it. I don’t see any need to go after Ender, and I remind you that we are not allowed to go after trolls that have been banned. If we can’t go after them, shouldn’t be able to after Ender. Also I think Ender is a good guy.

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What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls? I don’t think mfm was going after anyone, but rather making a joke based on the situation and ones like it. But mfm couldn’t stage an exodus because nobody would go with him.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Mrebo said:

What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls?

Essentially, we can’t kick anybody once they’re down, even if they were douchebags.

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Mrebo said:

What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls?

Time after time when someone does, a mod steps in and tells the member not to.

Mrebo said:

I don’t think mfm was going after anyone, but rather making a joke based on the situation and ones like it. But mfm couldn’t stage an exodus because nobody would go with him.

Well I am sick of tired of these “jokes”.

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Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

What do you mean we can’t go after banned trolls?

Time after time when someone does, a mod steps in and tells the member not to.

Mrebo said:

I don’t think mfm was going after anyone, but rather making a joke based on the situation and ones like it. But mfm couldn’t stage an exodus because nobody would go with him.

Well I am sick of tired of these “jokes”.

How about the “joke” I made?

The blue elephant in the room.

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What “joke” do you refer to?