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TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

That’s what she- wait, isn’t OT supposed to be down?

The blue elephant in the room.

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TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

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You didn’t disregard the race angle?

moviefreakedmind said:

Not to downplay racism, but social mobility seems like a myth to me regardless.

Anyway, here’s a fun one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rick-santorum-students-should-learn-cpr-not-seek-gun-laws/2018/03/25/57cb532c-3070-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.284b2ad55fdc

Former Pennsylvania Sen. and perpetually moronic Rick Santorum said Sunday that students who have rallied for gun control should instead learn CPR or find their own way to prevent a school shooting.

“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that,” the Republican said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

The 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate said students could work to stop bullying in their communities or respond themselves to a shooter instead of asking lawmakers to approve legislation to protect them.

I may have added a bit of my own commentary at the beginning.

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TV’s Frink said:

Anyway, here’s a fun one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rick-santorum-students-should-learn-cpr-not-seek-gun-laws/2018/03/25/57cb532c-3070-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.284b2ad55fdc

Former Pennsylvania Sen. and perpetually moronic Rick Santorum said Sunday that students who have rallied for gun control should instead learn CPR or find their own way to prevent a school shooting.

“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes or trying to deal with situations that when there is a violent shooter that you can actually respond to that,” the Republican said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

The 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate said students could work to stop bullying in their communities or respond themselves to a shooter instead of asking lawmakers to approve legislation to protect them.

I may have added a bit of my own commentary at the beginning.

Santorum is an ass.

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TV’s Frink said:

You didn’t disregard the race angle?

moviefreakedmind said:

Not to downplay racism, but social mobility seems like a myth to me regardless.

I said that social mobility is a myth to me and a lot of other people who have never experienced it or even witnessed. You can keep pretending to not get what I’m saying, though. This is why everybody hates rich people.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

This is why everybody hates rich people.

Um…sure.

Well, it’s why I hate rich people. All they do is live comfortably and pretend to care about people. When I get rich I’m just going to live comfortably and have the decency to openly not give a shit about anybody.

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Why do you think Pope Francis sucks?

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Warbler said:

Why do you think Pope Francis sucks?

He stands for a system and institution that I’m very opposed to, and ultimately is opposed to me and much of what I hold dear. I do give him credit for pushing the church in a more progressive direction on certain issues.

EDIT: Sucks is an unprofessional word, but hey I suck too so I can get away with saying it.

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Warbler said:

Why do you think Pope Francis sucks?

He stands for a system and institution that I’m very opposed to, and ultimately is opposed to me and much of what I hold dear. I do give him credit for pushing the church in a more progressive direction on certain issues.

EDIT: Sucks is an unprofessional word, but hey I suck too so I can get away with saying it.

I see. Your opinion is noted and logged.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

This is why everybody hates rich people.

Um…sure.

Well, it’s why I hate rich people. All they do is live comfortably and pretend to care about people. When I get rich I’m just going to live comfortably and have the decency to openly not give a shit about anybody.

That’s how 99% of rich people are anyway.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The blue elephant in the room.

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TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

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Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

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moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Actually, I’m not done with this shit yet. Tell me what the goddam point was that I completely missed. I don’t like being treated like a moronic child that’s incapable of reason that just needs to be given up on. I’m fully capable of reading and I gathered from the article that black people statistically are more likely to be disadvantaged and it can’t be purely blamed on class inequality because black people, and black men in particular, are more likely to be stuck in poverty and also more likely to slide back into poverty if they escape it, whereas white people have a better chance of escaping because of better schools, etc. etc. I got all of that, and didn’t disregard it. (In fact, you could say I got the fucking point perfectly.) I merely added that for people already trapped in poverty beyond any means of escape, there is no privilege. If you’re a white kid who is in poverty but lives in a good school district, then you have white privilege and might even lead a less shitty life than your parents, but if you’re already trapped in a shit-ass life, then there is no escape, no matter what your skin color is. My only point was that white privilege is meaningless when you look at families that live in shit, drug-addled towns and neighborhoods. White privilege is meaningless to the uneducated trailer-park crowd. It’s meaningless to the single-mom of three kids at age 22. Those people have a next to zero percent chance at social mobility, regardless of how white they are. For those people and people like them (white or not), social mobility is something that will never happen and might as well be a myth. I figured that this would be common knowledge, but I guess not because some people are still confused.

Alright you didn’t miss the point, it seemed like you were ignoring it. Forget I said anything.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

That’s called “small sample size.”

It’s still an entire community. Granted, it’s in a shithole part of this country so that was probably part of the problem, but you posted this article as though it’s supposed to educate people on how they’re privileged because they are supposed to be statistically more likely to be better off. When they’re living a shit life surrounded by other people living shit lives it’s completely impossible to find the writing of a New York Times writer and the rich white people that share the article compelling.

You’ve missed the point completely. But I give up.

Fuck that, I didn’t miss anything. I’m explaining to you why people in poverty don’t appreciate or care about statistical evidence of how privileged they are. I didn’t even disregard the race angle. I actually empathize with impoverished black people. I’ve lived in poverty before and I’ve lived in shit parts of town before, and still kind of do. My point is that, yes, white people who aren’t impoverished and trying to raise five kids from their low-wage unskilled labor are privileged, but the white people (and people in general) who are in those shit situations are just as trapped as anyone else. If you live in a shit area, have kids, and didn’t get a degree in one of the few fields that can actually get you a decent job, then you’re fucked, and all this talk of statistics and numbers and chances of working up the social ladder don’t mean jack shit.

Strong agree.

The policies of the current administration and the ideology that fuels it, which you’ve defended on many occasions, are at fault for much of this hopelessness.

But Trump was going to make America great again…???