Am I a Bully? — Page 25

Dom even suggested it.

DominicCobb said:

Imagine how much less cluttered off topic these past few days would have been if someone made an “MLP talk” thread like I suggested.

TV’s Frink said:

Dom even suggested it.

DominicCobb said:

Imagine how much less cluttered off topic these past few days would have been if someone made an “MLP talk” thread like I suggested.

And I was going to mention that but I figured you’d come across my post eventually.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-thread-formerly-known-as-the-bully-thread/id/17279
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/If-the-bully-thread-you-seek-look-here-you-should-not/id/17280

Collipso said:

However, I do not like to talk about people when they’re not even present (even if I know Frink is going to log in in a couple of hours/minutes) so this might be my last post in this thread.

If that is the case, you can’t talk about anyone ever on here. How are you to know if the person in question is or is not in the thread when you post?

oojason said:

I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.

If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.

If I know Darth Ender, he is not trying to goad, it trying engage in intelligent conversation with Frink so they can come to an understanding.

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

The fact that this thread exists indicates that there is some truth to it, and the fact that it gets bumped periodically by different people reflects that the sentiment is shared at times and not based on an isolated incident. While I enjoy your humor and think you are generally a great guy, I think your greatest weaknesses are: 1) an ardent refusal to admit that you were wrong or a contributor to a problem;

Disagree.

2. a need to perpetually harass members who have wronged you instead of letting the conflict die off;

You’ll pay for that.

3. dismissiveness towards this who disagree with you instead of respect for their perspectives;

[eyeroll]

4. defensiveness when your flaws are pointed out;

Not true!

and 5) insensitivity to others’ sensibilities while maintaining extreme sensitivity to your own.

I hate Mormons.

I’d love to read a reply from you that doesn’t demonstrates one of these.

Dammit.

Darth Ender should have added “6) refuses to give intelligent and honest responses and instead responses with sarcasm, jokes, and wise cracks”.

Warbler said:

oojason said:

I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.

If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.

If I know Darth Ender, he is not trying to goad, it trying engage in intelligent conversation with Frink so they can come to an understanding.

DARTH ENDER COMPUTER CONFIRMED

INFERIOR MODEL OBVIOUSLY

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

The fact that this thread exists indicates that there is some truth to it, and the fact that it gets bumped periodically by different people reflects that the sentiment is shared at times and not based on an isolated incident. While I enjoy your humor and think you are generally a great guy, I think your greatest weaknesses are: 1) an ardent refusal to admit that you were wrong or a contributor to a problem;

Disagree.

2. a need to perpetually harass members who have wronged you instead of letting the conflict die off;

You’ll pay for that.

3. dismissiveness towards this who disagree with you instead of respect for their perspectives;

[eyeroll]

4. defensiveness when your flaws are pointed out;

Not true!

and 5) insensitivity to others’ sensibilities while maintaining extreme sensitivity to your own.

I hate Mormons.

I’d love to read a reply from you that doesn’t demonstrates one of these.

Dammit.

Darth Ender should have added “6) refuses to give intelligent and honest responses and instead responses with sarcasm, jokes, and wise cracks”.

Yeah but then I would have been required by contract to post a Ric pic.

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Aw man my perfect track record ruined.

It really is fun reading back through this thread, you guys should try it too. Everything’s already been said but don’t let me stop you now since I’m still enjoying every post.

please don’t take this in any mean way, but if people keep saying the same things over and over, why don’t you try to change said aspects of your behavior?

i don’t want to sound like that one person that acts like they never do anything wrong, but if you know people don’t like certain things you say or do, why keep pushing it? you’ll only end up pushing some people away. warb left the forum pre super bowl because of that, remember? i guess we were all a bit annoyed by the constant “eagles!” spam, but no one felt the need to keep pushing warb to the point of him feeling the need to take a break from the website.

now i hope you know you’re one of the best people here frink, and i thoroughly enjoy every single post you make that’s not vehemently mean to someone. you’re a great guy, like i said. i’m not going to lie that at first i felt intimidated by you but turns out you have a heart of gold and is and can be one of the kindest and nicest people around here. you also have a great sense of humor and i have "allol"ed with your posts countless times.

so please don’t take this in any way other than simply me trying to talk. and know that i have the best of intentions and that i truly deeply appreciate your presence here, and that i really really like you.

Warbler said:

Collipso said:

However, I do not like to talk about people when they’re not even present (even if I know Frink is going to log in in a couple of hours/minutes) so this might be my last post in this thread.

If that is the case, you can’t talk about anyone ever on here. How are you to know if the person in question is or is not in the thread when you post?

i meant i don’t like to talk about people behind their backs and that’s exactly what i felt like i was doing, by talking about frink as if he wasn’t here.

dahmage said:

to those who like to dump on TV’s Frink: how about you create your own threads inviting feedback and see how you like it? seems only fair to me.

Now, I could reply in Frink style and refuse to give this serious thought and a serious reply and instead respond with a wisecrack. But I will give this serious thought and perhaps I will create such a thread.

yhwx said:

Collipso said:

so please don’t take this in any way other than simply me trying to talk. and know that i have the best of intentions and that i truly deeply appreciate your presence here, and that i really really like you.

Oooooh!

The beginnings of a love story. ❤️

Love > hate

Collipso said:

Warbler said:

Collipso said:

However, I do not like to talk about people when they’re not even present (even if I know Frink is going to log in in a couple of hours/minutes) so this might be my last post in this thread.

If that is the case, you can’t talk about anyone ever on here. How are you to know if the person in question is or is not in the thread when you post?

i meant i don’t like to talk about people behind their backs and that’s exactly what i felt like i was doing, by talking about frink as if he wasn’t here.

Well, I am just curious how, on this forum, you would go about talking about people without talking behind their backs?

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Aw man my perfect track record ruined.

It really is fun reading back through this thread, you guys should try it too. Everything’s already been said but don’t let me stop you now since I’m still enjoying every post.

you have a heart of gold and can be one of the kindest and nicest people around here.

Citation needed.

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Aw man my perfect track record ruined.

It really is fun reading back through this thread, you guys should try it too. Everything’s already been said but don’t let me stop you now since I’m still enjoying every post.

please don’t take this in any mean way, but if people keep saying the same things over and over, why don’t you try to change said aspects of your behavior?

i don’t want to sound like that one person that acts like they never do anything wrong, but if you know people don’t like certain things you say or do, why keep pushing it? you’ll only end up pushing some people away. warb left the forum pre super bowl because of that, remember? i guess we were all a bit annoyed by the constant “eagles!” spam, but no one felt the need to keep pushing warb to the point of him feeling the need to take a break from the website.

now i hope you know you’re one of the best people here frink, and i thoroughly enjoy every single post you make that’s not vehemently mean to someone. you’re a great guy, like i said. i’m not going to lie that at first i felt intimidated by you but turns out you have a heart of gold and is and can be one of the kindest and nicest people around here. you also have a great sense of humor and i have "allol"ed with your posts countless times.

so please don’t take this in any way other than simply me trying to talk. and know that i have the best of intentions and that i truly deeply appreciate your presence here, and that i really really like you.

Cool man. Love you too. No sarcasm here.

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Aw man my perfect track record ruined.

It really is fun reading back through this thread, you guys should try it too. Everything’s already been said but don’t let me stop you now since I’m still enjoying every post.

you have a heart of gold and can be one of the kindest and nicest people around here.

Citation needed.

Yes please.

nah

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

oojason said:

I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.

If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.

Of course we all have such flaws. But there is no doubt that Frink’s character is unique to this forum, usually in a pleasant sense, periodically to an aggravating sense.

However, I am not trying to goad or escalate anything. I was trying to follow mrebo’s advice from that thread:

Mrebo said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

To be honest, I genuinely feel you’re not as enjoyable or nice as you used to be. Or maybe I’m just nicer than I used to be, leading me to sit on my high horse. 😛

I think you and Warb are just suffering faulty memory, but ok.

Im getting flashbacks of the Luke Skywalker debate. I think Frink is as delightful as ever 🐣

I think we should give the dead the respect they deserve in this thread and not get bogged down in petty internecine fights (definition provided for Dom’s benefit).

I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand. So far, I don’t believe we’re even close to that point.

What’s more, you swooped in on my comment in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread because a lack of careful phrasing made it look like a portion of my comment was a broad generalization, even though the latter part of the comment should have clarified. You quickly corrected me and stated that I shouldn’t generalize (to which I agreed) and presumably accepted my point that liberals and atheists should be respectful of religious/conservative individuals who have died. Literally, you castigated me for not using the word ‘many’ in one of two appropriate places. Meanwhile, Frink’s disrespectful comments, both before and after that, received no moderation, and they were clearly far more offensive.

Following all this, I come to this thread to carry on what I hope will be a productive conversation and where Frink might actually acknowledge that he has been ruder lately, and whom do you call out? Me. Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely. Never mind the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl, refusing for pages to acknowledge that he should back down. Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings. Never mind his lack of remorse on most of these occasions. No, call out darth_ender, who 95% of the time tries to be the peace maker. I really appreciate that.

Regardless of whether or not I agree with you (which I actually do, to an extent), I don’t think making yourself out to be the savior of behavioral decency on the forum is really helpful to this discussion.

I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.

Yeah and I wasn’t saying you shouldn’t say that. But when you say something like you’re a peace maker 95% of the time (or trying to be), it’s distracting. I almost just posted “95% of the time? Really?” but I’m trying to be a little more constructive.

Well, I kind of appreciate your effort, but that’s like Warbler saying, “I would normally sigh here but I won’t.”

Not if the rest of my post is explaining my issue your post rather than just scoffing at it.

Respectfully, far too often you try to make yourself out to be the only adult here. I know your intentions are in the right place, but it’s honestly kind of annoying.

Perhaps it was the wrong choice of words. What I was doing was acknowledging that I have my lapses and descend into fighting, but 95% of the time, I feel I maintain maturity and keep the peace. I don’t mean that I act as a policeman for others (because usually I just butt out), but I mean I try not to contribute to a problem.

I mean, honestly, I find you jumping in, and mostly critiquing me instead of the guy who clearly does more of the antagonizing, annoying. It’s almost you doing what you don’t like me doing. On the other hand, I don’t really care that much, and I’m just pointing it out because I do feel that Frink does get more free passes from peers and mods alike.

I only butt in because of that bone I had to pick with your post (I appreciate your clarification).

If it wasn’t for that I literally just wouldn’t have commented. I really don’t have anything to say against the rest of your post. I personally don’t think Frink is a problem and I certainly don’t think he’s any different than he used to be. Sometimes he goes too far but then he reins it in. You said your piece and that’s fine. I don’t have an issue with that.

Again, my point is just that when you make yourself out to be more mature or whatever, it’s annoying. I don’t think you can really say that that’s what I was doing by criticizing you, mostly because my goal on this forum isn’t maturity. I like being silly and sarcastic. When I’m at work, I don’t have much opportunity for that besides on here. That’s part of the reason why I find that kind of thing you do sometimes to be annoying.

I’m silly and sarcastic and even tease quite a bit, so I don’t understand the feeling that I try to be high and mighty. I just try to be respectful, and when I realize I’ve crossed a line, I try to apologize quickly and back down. Now that I’ve said this, maybe someone will say I’m trying to toot my own horn, but what I am actually doing is trying to admit that I make mistakes, but honestly say that I try to correct them.

Let me give an example. A month or so ago, I made a joke about menstruation. TV’s Frink, who has made his fair share of crude jokes, said, “I expected better from you,” or something very close. Now, I didn’t interpret what he said as being ‘holier than thou’. I made a joke that someone thought was tasteless or offensive. I apologized and edited the post. But TV’s Frink has made jokes that I have found offensive and unnecessary. Sometimes, I see it hurting someone else. I see the individual being picked on ask for him to stop, and instead, he continues to push buttons. Sometimes, he apologizes, but most of the time, he does not. This is not me trying to look better than him. This is me trying to say, “Look, you are calling me out on my faults. It would be nice if someone called him out more because I see far more people hurt by his behavior than mine.”

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

The fact that this thread exists indicates that there is some truth to it, and the fact that it gets bumped periodically by different people reflects that the sentiment is shared at times and not based on an isolated incident. While I enjoy your humor and think you are generally a great guy, I think your greatest weaknesses are: 1) an ardent refusal to admit that you were wrong or a contributor to a problem;

Disagree.

2. a need to perpetually harass members who have wronged you instead of letting the conflict die off;

You’ll pay for that.

3. dismissiveness towards this who disagree with you instead of respect for their perspectives;

[eyeroll]

4. defensiveness when your flaws are pointed out;

Not true!

and 5) insensitivity to others’ sensibilities while maintaining extreme sensitivity to your own.

I hate Mormons.

I’d love to read a reply from you that doesn’t demonstrates one of these.

Dammit.

Darth Ender should have added “6) refuses to give intelligent and honest responses and instead responses with sarcasm, jokes, and wise cracks”.

Yeah but then I would have been required by contract to post a Ric pic.

Yes, and why is that? Why do you admittedly refuse to give intelligent and honest responses and instead respond with sarcasm, jokes, and wise cracks when people obviously are interested in an intelligent and honest response?

I don’t have time to make serious posts.

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Past couple of days, yes.

Aw man my perfect track record ruined.

It really is fun reading back through this thread, you guys should try it too. Everything’s already been said but don’t let me stop you now since I’m still enjoying every post.

you have a heart of gold and can be one of the kindest and nicest people around here.

Citation needed.

No need, I think he’s just repeating something he saw Alex Jones say.

dahmage said:

to those who like to dump on TV’s Frink: how about you create your own threads inviting feedback and see how you like it? seems only fair to me.

If I did, and I got feedback, I don’t think I’d be in a position to complain.

And while not feedback about me specifically, I have created threads that invite a great deal of criticism, notably my Mormon thread. I asked for feedback, and I get it. Sometimes it’s harsh and rude. But I’m a big boy and can stand up for myself. I don’t doubt that Frink can stand up for himself. Otherwise, serious or sarcastic, he would not have created this thread.

If I’ve complained about this thread I would bully myself for it.