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Things that you would like to see in Star Wars that have not happened

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The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction. I would also like to see orange lightsabers introduced in the new SW canon.

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I was watching a YouTube video where Bruce Lee had lightsaber nunchucks. That made me wish for a variety of lightsaber weapons, lightsaber colors, and new fighting styles. The Force Unleashed had a lot of cool customization options for lightsaber colors and stability level.

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fmalover said:

The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction.

This would go against what we know about the nature of the Force. The dark path will lead you to doing things you didn’t originally intend. Conquest and destruction come with the package whether it’s wanted or not. You don’t play the Darkside, it pays you.

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ray_afraid said:

fmalover said:

The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction.

You don’t play the Darkside, it pays you.

How much? I’m in if the money’s good.

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“Come to the dark side. We have cookies.”

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DominicCobb said:

ray_afraid said:

fmalover said:

The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction.

You don’t play the Darkside, it pays you.

How much? I’m in if the money’s good.

(D’oh!) It pay’s you in hatred.

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ray_afraid said:

fmalover said:

The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction.

This would go against what we know about one interpretation of the nature of the Force.

FTFY

Frankly, I wish Lucas had never depicted the Force is such a stringent “black-and-white-no-in-between” manner. It reeks of foul Objectivism.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

ray_afraid said:

fmalover said:

The title of this thread is pretty self explanatory. Personally I would love to see a Force wielder who practices the dark side but isn’t necessarily evil, whether it’s an individual or a group, I think it would be interesting to see that not all darksiders are interested in conquest and destruction.

This would go against what we know about one interpretation of the nature of the Force.

FTFY

Frankly, I wish Lucas had never depicted the Force is such a stringent “black-and-white-no-in-between” manner. It reeks of foul Objectivism.

I kinda agree, kinda don’t. Like, I’m down with the idea that using the force for selfish reasons is corrupting and can turn you bad. On the other had, you shouldn’t have to repress natural emotions like fear and anger to not become an evil monster.

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I don’t like the “suppress you emotions” thing either.
I’m referring to “Once you start down the dark path, consume you it will.” Not “Don’t you dare get mad”. (that’s probably not a direct PT quote).
Being scared or mad is ok. Using the force for personal gain is not.
I forget sometimes that these waters have gotten so muddy.

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ray_afraid said:

I don’t like the “suppress you emotions” thing either.
I’m referring to “Once you start down the dark path, consume you it will.” Not “Don’t you dare get mad”. (that’s probably not a direct PT quote).
Being scared or mad is ok. Using the force for personal gain is not.
I forget sometimes that these waters have gotten so muddy.

Yeah, I don’t have much of an issue with how it’s described in the OT, because it’s not so strict. The PT is where I take my issue.

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Yoda is every bit as strict about the Dark Side in the OT as the Jedi were in the PT.

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

I’d like to see actual space pirates doing space pirate things.

I’d like to see a movie with droids as the main characters.

I’d like to see an alien Force user who has wildly different abilities than human users.

I’d like to see an Ocean’s Eleven style heist.

I’d like to see some good political intrigue.

I’d like to see a Jedi Knight defending a technologically Medieval population against a large, dragonlike alien and its minions.

I’d like to see a Star Wars ghost story.

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I think the light/dark sides should have been a Jedi phrase. They saw force users become corrupted by the power of the force and installed a Jedi code which limited how in touch one could become with the force. Because if you grew to powerful with the power it would consume you (unless you take the long and hard path, like Yoda).

On the other hand the Sith simply believe they are using the force to it’s full potential. Some are just in it for conquest, but others (such as Darth Vader) believe they are using the force for the greater good and all the Jedi do is limit their quest for justice. Of course the quick and easy path slowly consumes them. This would have added a lot more depth to the dark side, with multiple beliefs and orders. It also would have benefited the PT (and ST with Kylo Ren) tremendously.

I mean seriously, who in their right minds thinks the “dark side” are the good guys?

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The idea that attachment leads to the dark side makes sense but it’s a bit too strict. If it wasn’t for Luke’s compassion for Vader, things would’ve gone dark in the throne room.

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NeverarGreat said:

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

This reminds me of a story idea I posted in another thread some years ago.

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I’ve got an idea for a film that’s basically a Lovecraftian horror story set in the Star Wars Universe.

Two Jedi archaeologists – a master and his newly appointed apprentice – are sent to serve as consultants on a remote backwater planet where the ruins of a long extinct civilization have been unearthed. Apparently, this civilization wiped itself millions of years ago after succumbing to some bizarre pandemic which caused them all to develop conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the history of their world, driving them to homicidal madness in the process.

As the archaeological team digs deeper and deeper into the ruins, they, too, begin to suffer from the madness which wiped out this lost civilization, recalling conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the universe around them.

Eventually, it is discovered that this plague of madness is caused by some bizarre orb buried at the heart of the ruins – an orb which serves as a window into the multiverse. Anyone who gets too close to the orb and its emanations gains the memories of their counterparts in other timelines, driving them insane in the process.

In the end, the Jedi master sacrifices himself by merging with the orb, defeating it in the process. His apprentice, who suffered prolonged exposure to the radiations of the orb, is left insane, unable to distinguish one reality from another, existing in multiple worlds at once.

I still want to see this movie made.

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DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yoda is every bit as strict about the Dark Side in the OT as the Jedi were in the PT.

Not true at all.

“If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.” It doesn’t get more absolutist than that. He also believes that Luke should kill those who use the Dark Side. Luke proves him wrong on both fronts. The Jedi in the PT have more explicit rules, but the underlying absolutism is the same.

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NeverarGreat said:

DominicCobb said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yoda is every bit as strict about the Dark Side in the OT as the Jedi were in the PT.

Not true at all.

“If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.” It doesn’t get more absolutist than that. He also believes that Luke should kill those who use the Dark Side. Luke proves him wrong on both fronts. The Jedi in the PT have more explicit rules, but the underlying absolutism is the same.

It’s vaguer than that, there’s still room for interpretations of the dark side to grow beyond what we see in those films. He’s basically just saying once you go dark, you don’t come back, which of course Luke proves is wrong by turning Vader. When he talks about fear and anger there, I take it to mean he’s saying be careful of those emotions, he’s not necessarily saying to repress them.

In TPM the Jedi council doesn’t want to train Anakin because he’s afraid. Which is dumb. Not to mention their views on love and attachments, of course. Problem being that there’s no one in the movie to prove them wrong, but there is someone who proves them right.

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NeverarGreat said:

Yoda is every bit as strict about the Dark Side in the OT as the Jedi were in the PT.

No. (Dom’s covering that so I’ll let it be)

NeverarGreat said:

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

I’d like to see actual space pirates doing space pirate things.

I’d like to see a Star Wars ghost story.

Yes!

OutboundFlight said:

I mean seriously, who in their right minds thinks the “dark side” are the good guys?

That’s the corruption. It clouds you to the point you no longer believe your doing or saying the wrong things. That’s why the idea of darkside good guys doesn’t work. Like I said earlier, you don’t play the darkside, it plays you.

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The idea that attachment leads to the dark side makes sense

Not at all.

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ray_afraid said:

NeverarGreat said:

Yoda is every bit as strict about the Dark Side in the OT as the Jedi were in the PT.

No. (Dom’s covering that so I’ll let it be)

NeverarGreat said:

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

I’d like to see actual space pirates doing space pirate things.

I’d like to see a Star Wars ghost story.

OutboundFlight said:

I mean seriously, who in their right minds thinks the “dark side” are the good guys?

Collipso said:

The idea that attachment leads to the dark side makes sense

Not at all.

It actually does. If someone is as emotionally attached like Anakin they could easily be corrupted the way he was. Of course, I think that if the Jedi were not the way they were things would’ve gone completely different, so it’s more the Jedi’s fault than Anakin imo, but what I’m saying is that I think most married people would do anything for their loved ones if it means saving them from certain death, which COULD lead to the dark side, but not necessarily. If you know how to deal with it you’re fine. If you don’t, there is some chance that you’ll be corrupted by the dark side.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

This reminds me of a story idea I posted in another thread some years ago.

Two Jedi archaeologists – a master and his newly appointed apprentice – are sent to serve as consultants on a remote backwater planet where the ruins of a long extinct civilization have been unearthed. Apparently, this civilization wiped itself millions of years ago after succumbing to some bizarre pandemic which caused them all to develop conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the history of their world, driving them to homicidal madness in the process.

As the archaeological team digs deeper and deeper into the ruins, they, too, begin to suffer from the madness which wiped out this lost civilization, recalling conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the universe around them.

Eventually, it is discovered that this plague of madness is caused by some bizarre orb buried at the heart of the ruins – an orb which serves as a window into the multiverse. Anyone who gets too close to the orb and its emanations gains the memories of their counterparts in other timelines, driving them insane in the process.

In the end, the Jedi master sacrifices himself by merging with the orb, defeating it in the process. His apprentice, who suffered prolonged exposure to the radiations of the orb, is left insane, unable to distinguish one reality from another, existing in multiple worlds at once.

I still want to see this movie made.

Sounds like a good idea, but maybe not for Star Wars. For some reason, having a multiverse in SW just feels wrong.

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I’d like to see a story, probably a comic due to how controversial it would be, where the Jedi and Sith are sort of inversed.

Our protagonist is a jaded Sith Bounty Hunter on the run from the Republic. He uses his powers for personal gain and is not a good guy. This would probably take place during the 1000 years of the Rule of Two. A rich family has a child who is very sensitive in the force. The Jedi see this and wish to collect the child by mind tricking the parents, but the parents predict this and don’t want to part with their kid. So they hire the Sith Mercenary to protect them from a group of attacking Jedi Knights. It would be a very gray look at the universe while not messing with the central idea of the dark side being evil (even though the Sith is doing something noble it’s only for the money).

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Anakin Starkiller said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

NeverarGreat said:

Anyway, I’d like to see archaeology in a Star Wars movie.

This reminds me of a story idea I posted in another thread some years ago.

Two Jedi archaeologists – a master and his newly appointed apprentice – are sent to serve as consultants on a remote backwater planet where the ruins of a long extinct civilization have been unearthed. Apparently, this civilization wiped itself millions of years ago after succumbing to some bizarre pandemic which caused them all to develop conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the history of their world, driving them to homicidal madness in the process.

As the archaeological team digs deeper and deeper into the ruins, they, too, begin to suffer from the madness which wiped out this lost civilization, recalling conflicting memories about themselves, their peers, and the universe around them.

Eventually, it is discovered that this plague of madness is caused by some bizarre orb buried at the heart of the ruins – an orb which serves as a window into the multiverse. Anyone who gets too close to the orb and its emanations gains the memories of their counterparts in other timelines, driving them insane in the process.

In the end, the Jedi master sacrifices himself by merging with the orb, defeating it in the process. His apprentice, who suffered prolonged exposure to the radiations of the orb, is left insane, unable to distinguish one reality from another, existing in multiple worlds at once.

I still want to see this movie made.

Sounds like a good idea, but maybe not for Star Wars. For some reason, having a multiverse in SW just feels wrong.

A single SW universe consisting of the PT, SE, & ST feels wrong to me. YMMV

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OutboundFlight said:

I’d like to see a story, probably a comic due to how controversial it would be, where the Jedi and Sith are sort of inversed.

Our protagonist is a jaded Sith Bounty Hunter on the run from the Republic. He uses his powers for personal gain and is not a good guy. This would probably take place during the 1000 years of the Rule of Two. A rich family has a child who is very sensitive in the force. The Jedi see this and wish to collect the child by mind tricking the parents, but the parents predict this and don’t want to part with their kid. So they hire the Sith Mercenary to protect them from a group of attacking Jedi Knights. It would be a very gray look at the universe while not messing with the central idea of the dark side being evil (even though the Sith is doing something noble it’s only for the money).

I love this idea.

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I’d love to see a Star Wars story, which doesn’t include or even reference

  • any Skywalker
  • any Kenobi
  • Darth Vader or any cheap imitation like Kylo Ren
  • Emperor Palpatine or any cheap imitation like Snoke
  • Death Star or Death Star II or any cheap imitation like the Starkiller base
  • any left wing or right wing agenda, make it just a good old “good vs evil” story

Out of the 9 canon live action Star Wars movies we have seen so far,

  • 8 movies had a Skywalker
  • 6 had a Death Star or a similar “ball of death”
  • 9 had Darth Vader or a cheap imitation of Darth Vader
  • 6 had Yoda

I want something completely different, for example a historical piece about the fight between the Jedi and the Sith and the formation of the Republic, or go to the far future. Or do some crazy time travel story. Or some story where somebody from their universe ends up on Earth. Or some small personal story about a group of Clone Troopers during the clone wars, you could even take many of the cartoon multi-part arcs and adapt them into great movies. Just do something DIFFERENT and stop remaking and referencing the original trilogy