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dahmage
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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23-Jan-2018, 1:41 PM

Collipso said:

dahmage said:

Collipso said:

Making a mistake is human. Making the same mistake twice is foolish. (Or something like that)

maybe you mean “All men make mistakes, but only wise men learn from their mistakes.” - Winston Churchill

So Luke is a fool then in your eyes?

Yeah, I was talking about that I guess.

In a way yes, Luke is a fool. Or do you think he was very wise disregarding everything that he learned in the throne room and going into poor Ben’s hut and igniting his lightsaber? Yoda also told him that he must gain control over himself.

And Obi-Wan said that the force partially controls your actions, and that your eyes can deceive you. In the trench run yes, he did tell Luke to basically trust his instincts, but he never told Luke to let go of logic, ever.

Speaking of Obi-Wan, he’s a man that learned from his mistakes. Compare PT Obi-Wan and OT Obi-Wan, and you’ll see they’re the same character, only that they grown from their mistakes. Yoda too, but less so than Obi-Wan.

Well, Luke isn’t Yoda or Obi-wan. Luke barely had any training in the OT. I still think he was barely a good Jedi in ROTJ. Barely resisted the goading, etc. Obi-wan was training and existing along-side other Jedi… Anway, i see no reason to expect the same from Luke as from Obi-wan.

I agree, Luke drawing the saber was foolish. Yoda came back and told him that much of what he was doing was foolish.

Again, the real disagreement is that one side of this complaint things Luke is a perfect Jedi, and should behave like a perfect Jedi. The other side of this doesn’t think that at all.

The film seems to portray that Luke was not perfect, so I am happy with it.

You are not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯