The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS ** — Page 65

DominicCobb said:

Ronster said:

well I think you can certainly expect a lower budget on the last Episode given the social media reaction.

It looks like a 50/50 split so the budget will be aligned accordingly for losses.

More accurate research shows it’s nothing near 50/50, probably closer to 90/10 or 70/30 at the very least.

And when TLJ becomes the third highest grossing domestic release of all time, I’m sure any thought about decreasing the IX budget will disappear.

There is no such thing as accurate research on movie reviews I just read a weird article about “review bombing” something I have never heard of before.

The article suggests there are loads of people actively giving the lowest scores to review stuff in other words going out of their way to harm franchises by review bombing stuff and we are meant to believe audience reaction scores are so low because of some sort of mutiny fan “boy” reaction rather than anything honest okay Fan Gender Neutral reaction I’ll be PC for the sake of remaining a normal human being.

This is bigger than science fiction or even any Star Wars film plot… Millions of mutineers with nothing better top do than try to kill off star wars?

Crazy world man! Can not believe this stuff don’t mind normal discussion but the social media buzz is far from positive and I abstained after the first episode but It’s all too weird I don’t care put it that way for myself.

Can’t deal with the reality that is being fed to me on some weird internet article here it is below.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/12/20/the-curious-case-of-the-last-jedi-and-its-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score

I have read peoples views and without seeing the film I have affirmed my position for not partaking in this further installment.

For me personally this sums up why I want nothing to do with these further installments reading articles about bogus mutineer audience reaction scores it is pure insanity.

I think it’s time to put away the tinfoil hats and doubt anyone does “review bombs” or whatever they are called. Studios are in a constant battle to win the PR war and they do everything they can to mitigate bad publicity about their movies. If the critics give bad reviews, then there are suddenly news stories about how Rotten Tomatoes is not reliable and hurting the movie industry. If fans give bad reviews, then suddenly its bots and trolls making the score look bad.

I can say that when I watched in a packed theater on opening night, I didn’t hear any cheering or excitement. During the Canto Bight animal sequence, when they were running through the casino, about half a dozen people got up and walked out. Probably just to use the bathroom or get popcorn, but still nobody liked that entire portion of the movie. On a couple of other non-Star Wars forums I visit, almost everyone dislikes the movie. Couple of positive reviews here and there but mostly nobody liked it. On Star Wars forums it’s a mixed bag. Some people like it some people hate it. Just my experience.

yes you nailed it the other way around “It’s bot’s claiming to not like the film not real humans”

Critics = paid for
Audience reaction = reasonably accurate representation within probably 15-20%

Your decision = do you care or not and do you want to see more of the same.

Sorry but also I would like to state I don’t like the term “Cinematic universe” either as soon as I hear that I am gone…

Mrebo said:

I might be alone in not caring much about RT ratings and whether studios, critics, or audiences are gaming the system…

I don’t care about scores, there are so many bots on social media now it’s probably gamed both ways. I just pay attention to the theater I was at and the communities I belong to and see what other people have to say.

Petition is over 50,000 now. Will be interesting to see how high it actually goes.

.Val

Left the cinema with a smile once again - but with a more fulfilled feeling this time - and TLJ will still likely be in my thought for a good few weeks to come - and that’s what a good enjoyable film should do, isn’t it? (For me, anyway.)

This was my lasting impression. It’s not perfect. It’s not as good as the OT. But I did walk out on an unexpected high.

The Scrip Shadow review states what I thought pretty well

I really wanted her and Kylo to make sweaty space love but alas, no happen.

http://scriptshadow.net/movie-review-the-last-jedi-and-maybe-the-last-star-wars-movie/

Here’s “the guy” again, who’s actually a fantasy writer, with his spoiler review of TLJ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdobc7jtQo

He asks a good question, that I actually had not considered (and neither did RJ apparently): if admiral Holdo can lightspeed through Snoke’s ship to allow the rebels to escape, and we know they’re going pick them off one by one once the chase begins at the start of the film, why didn’t any of the rebels (or better yet a droid) sacrifice themselves at the beginning of the plot by having one of the cruisers lightspeed through Snokes ship, such that everyone can escape?

David Stewart is a very smart guy; I’ve been following his channel since his TFA review, and so far he’s been nailing it with his TLJ reviews.

NeverarGreat said:

DrDre said:

Here’s “the guy” again with his spoiler review of TLJ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdobc7jtQo

He asks a good question, that I actually had not considered (and neither did RJ apparently): if admiral Holdo can lightspeed through Snoke’s ship to allow the rebels to escape, and we know they’re going pick them off one by one once the chase begins at the start of the film, why didn’t any of the rebels (or better yet a droid) sacrifice themselves at the beginning of the plot by having one of the cruisers lightspeed through Snokes ship, such that everyone can escape?

That was my first thought upon seeing it:

NeverarGreat said:

Sure, I could pick apart the logical gaps in the spaceship pursuit and the Godspeed Maneuver™, but that’s for a future fanedit.

This is actually one of my main complaints about the movie, since it’s such an awesome moment that it really needs to be logically solid to have that same impact over multiple viewings. I’ve been wracking my brain trying to come up with a justification, and the only thing I can think of is that the damage to a ship would be exponentially increased with the size of the vessel. Mere fighters or support ships wouldn’t do that damage, nor even the old Calamari cruisers. And since a capital ship of that size is so valuable, to destroy it in this manner would probably not cross anyone’s mind.

That’s my answer for now.

Yeah, but apparently her plan involved getting that spaceship destroyed all along, so why not save everyone and destroy the enemy earlier, if the consequences regarding the cruiser essentially won’t change?

Collipso said:

David Stewart is a very smart guy; I’ve been following his channel since his TFA review, and so far he’s been nailing it with his TLJ reviews.

What I like about him, is that even if you don’t agree with him, he’s at least put a lot of thought into it, and he knows a lot about the movements in writing, and writing in general.

adywan said:

DrDre said:

Here’s “the guy” again with his spoiler review of TLJ:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOdobc7jtQo

He asks a good question, that I actually had not considered (and neither did RJ apparently): if admiral Holdo can lightspeed through Snoke’s ship to allow the rebels to escape, and we know they’re going pick them off one by one once the chase begins at the start of the film, why didn’t any of the rebels (or better yet a droid) sacrifice themselves at the beginning of the plot by having one of the cruisers lightspeed through Snokes ship, such that everyone can escape?

The only reason Holdo was able to carry out her plan is because the first order had ignored the cruiser as they were fully concentrated on destroying the shuttles. She was able to turn the ship around which, if they had done that earlier, they would be in full range of the first order weapons and would have been blasted out of the sky before they could do anything. And, to the question “why didn’t a droid do it”, well its clear in the film that her original plan was to just keep the chase going while the shuttles escape unnoticed. But, as soon as the first order started destroying the shuttles , she had to think fast and come up with something. Would a droid come up with a plan like that? Not unless it was a tactical military droid. And you have to remember that this is a film. Having a droid sacrifice itself wouldn’t have had the emotional weight of a human sacrificing themselves/

That doesn’t really sound very logical. One of the ships would only have to hyperspace a small distance, namely further out of range of the FO ship, turn around and voila, bye bye Snoke and his ship.

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

David Stewart is a very smart guy; I’ve been following his channel since his TFA review, and so far he’s been nailing it with his TLJ reviews.

What I like about him, is that even if you don’t agree with him, he’s at least put a lot of thought into it, and he knows a lot about the movements in writing, and writing in general.

Yeah. He’s a musician and a writer. I believe I quoted or mentioned him in this thread some 40 pages ago.