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Post #1135511

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alexp120
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1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project (a WIP)
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Date created
27-Nov-2017, 10:48 AM

althor1138 said:

For clarification, what should a person try to sync this to? The blu-ray? In the past I synced my 97se laserdisc projects to capablemetal’s files which were synced to the dts discs.

poita said:
As for Syncing, I’d sync it to the DTS theatrical discs I’d guess.

There is another way.

Back in 2015, CapableMetal released on the ‘spleen x264 encodes of the SE 97 trilogy made from TB broadcasts along with his CinemaDTS sound mixes, in a DTS codec file, sync’d together. The x264 encodes are in 23.976fps and are among the best references for the Special Edition. For frame count, I’ve compared the encode with the Blu Ray (starting from the first frame of the SW logo-zoom-out through the final shot of the film where the medal ceremony shot makes an iris transition to the end credits) and I’ve discovered two shots with different frame amounts.

  1. The optical fade-to-black/fade-from-black shot made up of 3 separate shots
  • Luke and the droids enter the garage (3P0’s line: ”Why I should stick my neck out for you…”) where it fades to…
  • …a set of black frames where it fades to…
  • …3P0 being lowered into the oil bath.
    In that group of black frames sandwiched by the two shots, the SE97 has 8 black frames more than the BR
  1. The Han and Greedo laser-shot exchange (if you can call it that 😃). The SE97 version has 19 frames, while the BR has 8.

Both the encode and the Blu Ray have the same number of frames in all the remaining shots in the film (note that I’ve haven’t counted the length of the studio logos and the “long time ago…” display, all involve fades to/from black)

This is not to say that volunteers, here, who don’t have access to this x264 encode, shouldn’t use the Blu Ray as a reference to search for missing frames in the print-scan. You can. Just keep these two said shots with different frame counts in mind.