Wow, lots to go over in such a short space of time. I can’t reply to each and every one so i’ll just go through a few…
Personally, I’d like to see the SE “Victory Celebration” music kept intact instead of “Yub Nub.” Coming from a composer, the “Victory Celebration” feels more climactic and conclusive than “Yub Nub.” It simply sounds like a finale.
I hate the Victory Celebration music. It doesn’t fit with the style of music heard in the OT. If they were going to change it, then it should have been a mroe orchestral piece, not some new age hippy trippy pan pipe style music. And the “ya ya ya” vocal bits in it scream the end of TPM to me. Hated that music also. I was never keen on Yub Nub either but i still prefer it over the SE version. But chances are none of them will be in the ending of ROTJ:R, or at least not in their current form. The whole end celebration may only be featured in a short section, with a new ending. Not going to say any more until i do some tests to see if my ideas work though.
One scene that is jarring for me is when Luke chops Vader’s arm off, he’s obviously just wearing an fake “stump”. Is there any way to shorten the limb so it looks a little more realistic?
Yeh, that’s going to be fixed.
One question, if you’re adding female pilots to the battle, does that mean finally giving a female voice to the one already there? Also, are we to assume including deleted scenes are out of the equation?
Yes, a female voice will be reinstated for that pilot. The deleted scenes for ROTJ, for the most part, are very low quality. No amount of cleaning and upscaling could get those shots acceptable for a HD film. This includes all of the Jerjerrod scenes. The only ones that have really any chance of fitting in are the Falcon interior scenes.
An idea I had a long time back was to have a long shot with no cuts showing the Falcon flying through the battle, shooting down Ties and such, while dodging fire from enemy ships. It would be similar in style to the intro scene of Anakin and Obi Wan entering the Coruscant battle in ROTS. This would be an epic way to showcase that Lando is a helluva pilot in his own right and that he knows that ship as well, if not better, than Han. It could end with a cut to Lando in the cockpit pointing out that the Star Destroyers aren’t firing.
i never liked the opening to ROTS. It’s just too long winded. The OT is more focused on short cuts, which work much better than overly long ones.
I’d start with the color-correction of the BluRay first, with small corrections like the lightsabers, shot flips, officer ranks ans continuity errors fixed, then release it. That way, we get a holdover, and we also have a common source to use when we get upset you removed beloved Ewok stunts, Victory Celebration or anything like that.
No, sorry, I’m not interested in releasing an unfinished version.
- 'my main niggle with ROTJ (apart from the ‘slapstick’ Ewoks!) 'has always been Boba Fett’s ‘comedy death’… the whole thing just doesn’t feel like a good ‘end’ for such a popular and supposedly deadly character…(?)
Boba won’t be getting that ridiculous death.
One suggestion is that since Dave Filoni confirms that Captain Rex is the White bearded old rebel guy at the bunker, I wonder if there is a way to get an audio comm announcement in the rebel hangar bay for him to report to the shuttle ala the line in Rogue One for General Sendulla? A little fanboy service, yes… but fitting.
As to a ‘perfect’ Falcon model - have you seen this Perfect Grade baby from Bandai?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZRGX6T/
1/72 scale which puts it slightly bigger than the less-than -perfect Fine Molds one.
There have been some great modelers who tricked out the Hasbro Hero Falcon with a lot of aftermarket parts, but the time to do that right is a 6-month to a full year project.
Not keen on the whole “Rex on Endor” thing. It’s something i won’t be hinting at in ROTJ:R
The “Perfect Grade” falcon is the same scale as the fine molds. I need to go 1/48 at least for this edit. Plus that’s the ANH version anyway. As for how long the modification to the Hasbro would take, i can leave the hangar shots until later so i have no problem with how long the models for this will take. I estimate late next year. Plenty of things to do in the mean time.
I guess one big question we should ask Ady before making a bunch of radical suggestions is:
Do you intend for ROTJ:R to be like ANH:R and ESB:R, in that it’ll be the “Special Edition that should have been,” or do you intend to make more dramatic editing decisions this time around?
There will be a lot more editorial changes with this one than the other two.
Ewoks … They are absolutely ridiculous and only exist to appeal kids and to sell toys.
Wrong. It’s an urban legend. Absolutely nothing to do with kids and toys.
They only exist because Chewbacca got a main role, therefore they could not be Wookies anymore, as they were in early drafts.
Since it is impossible to replace Ewoks with Wookies, getting rid of Ewoks is getting rid of Star Wars, as they were always part of it, from the very first draft.
Wrong, not an urban legend at all. Although it’s true that about the reasons why they weren’t wookiees, the fact about their design remains true that their design was deliberately altered to make them look like Teddy Bears. Their original design was more vicious, but george wanted to sell toys (where the real money is made). Originally they didn;t even have the head-dress, so looked exactly like Teddy bears. The head dress was only added during production because they had to cut a hole in the back of the head for cooling purposes. He also refused to have Han killed off because “no one wants to buy a toy of a dead character”
There is nothing plausible in TFA. That is a mess.
I do not trust Disney anymore. First they made a terribly bad, than a mediocre movie, so they are 0 for 2 right now. Im afraid a cool Disney Star Wars movie is unrealistic expectation at this point.
Why anyone cares about ‘Canon’? It is a Disney business move to make more money, and has nothing to do with what Star Wars is or should be.
Please can you keep this Disney bashing crap out of this thread. It plagues too many thread now by the usual suspects and i don;t want it infecting this one too. Plus the canon thing was a Lucas marketing tool to make money, in place LONG before the Disney buy out. Personally i’m loving the new Star Wars films so far. Heads and tales above the crap PT.
Here’s my list of suggestions:
- Maybe one less use of “my master” during the scene when Vader tells Palpatine about Luke being on Endor. To me, it sounds a little repetitive to hear him say that for two sentences in a row.
- Either shorten or remove the scene with the scout troopers chasing the Ewok on speeder bikes.
- Reanimate Palpatine’s Force lightning, and don’t give it as much of a glow.
- When Luke takes Vader’s mask off, make the top of Anakin’s head less egg-shaped, but keep his blue eyes and leave the eyebrows off as shown in the official 2004 DVD onwards.
2 - that is going to be shortened
3 - Why? Nothing wrong with the glow.
4 - planning on doing something about the egg head if possible.
The Prequel Trilogy is here to stay as a permanent part of the Star Wars canon whether you like them or not.
Well they’re no longer part of the Revisited saga, so… 😉
I wonder when Adywan will look at all of these suggestions and tell us what he thinks?
i can’t believe i have to address this thing once again. I asked you nicely before and yet you are doing it AGAIN. Why do i have to reply to things instantaneously for you? And then, when i don’t immediately reply, you send me constant messages on facebook, comment here, email me, all in a very short space of time. And emailing me to say nothing more than “A lot of people have been proposing suggestions for ROTJ Revisited on OT.com. I suggest you look at them and post your thoughts” will only go to get you ignored. How dare you demand that i reply, especially to a thread that i only started 3 damn days ago. A lot has been posted , yes, but it takes time to read through and reply and i keep my weekends mainly for myself and family and away from matters of the edit. Please stop it.