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Post #1073513

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thejediknighthusezni
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Date created
5-May-2017, 4:32 PM

CatBus said:

I agree with Puggo to the degree that booting a few million people off health insurance won’t hurt Trump’s re-election chances. However, it could play badly in certain legislative districts, and even flip some state governments (Florida, for example).

What’s interesting to me is that many of the arguments about the ACA (“why should I pay for someone else’s healthcare?”) are actually arguments against the concept of insurance in general and not specific to the ACA or even health insurance. It goes back to John Birch or even further back, when people railed against insurance companies, not only because they’re rich (which they are), but because insurance is an inherently collectivist concept. And worse, it’s an example of a collectivist concept that appears to be the only reasonable solution to a common market problem. And that is a real problem for Birchers/Tea Partiers, etc.

Lack of any insurance whatsoever–health, life, auto, etc–would actually be seen as a real success by this group, a triumph of “freedom” over collectivism. Never underestimate the power of ideology–some people will march right over a cliff if they think freedom’s on the other side, and they’ll keep believing it all the way down.

I’m not sure it will actually help Trump though. I think he’s currently assured to get about 45% of the vote in 2020, and I’m not sure this changes that. The only question is who the other 55% vote for, and where they live.

PPffffffttttttttt…

The Demican-Republocrat establishment uniparty pols are, like all “progressive” incremental totalitarian sh%#*, a gang of human misery vampires. They gain sustenance from severe unhappiness of their subjects. They want a socialist one-size-fits-all tyranny complete with rationing and death panels for anyone they deem unworthy. They are really just distracting and killing time until their ‘Big Glitch’ and the institution of communism in the aftermath.

Establish individual accounts within the Medicare system supposedly holding $10,000 each, INDEX FOR INFLATION, qualified providers bill the individuals, individuals can pay out of the account, individuals are paid $100-$200 dollars a month for not draining the account, monthly allotment is used to recharge the account to 10Gs whenever it’s drained, convert the rest of Medicare to 80/20 catastrophic. Pay for all this with the monies for Medicare, Medicaid, all other gov’t insurance, taxing the money for all private insurance, ending subsidies and a surtax to cover any deficit. Give all gov’t healthcare facilities 6-9 months to convert to private non-profit orgs that must be self-sustaining thereafter.

It’s universal, for most all people over the long term it’s 100 percent, personal responsibility of patients and doctors preserved and expanded, free market dynamic forces preserved and expanded…

There’s nothing more to see here. Move along.