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CatBus
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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24-Apr-2017, 3:54 PM

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Civil War, white supremacist uprising. You say tomato…

huh?

You say tomato, I say tomahto–it’s an old song. It means that there is no significant difference between those words.

I’m not so sure you can say there is no significant difference between a white supremacist uprising and the Civil War. I think the Civil War was bit more complicated than that.

It took a lot longer to put down than most other white supremacist uprisings, certainly. Other than that, I’m not really seeing it. Certainly if those cop killers honored by the statue in question had the military capacity of the Confederacy, I’m sure they’d have had delusions of statehood as well.

I’d try to argue this with you, but I don’t think you are going to listen.

Have it your way.

http://www.livescience.com/13673-civil-war-anniversary-myths.html

I never said the Civil War wasn’t about slavery. It definitely was about slavery, but I don’t think that it was the only thing the war was about. Certainly not everyone fighting for the south was doing it to preserve slavery. Some were doing so, because they had two options 1: fight against the union, or 2: fight again their own state, against their own cities/towns. I heard it said that is why Lee was fighting for the south, he could fight against the country or fight against his home state of Virginia, he chose to fight against the country.

In that sense, not all Germans in the Nazi army were fighting for white supremacy, only to avoid fighting their own country. Ergo, the Nazi army was not a white supremacist army?

Listen, I know lots of people’s ancestors fought for the Confederacy. My ancestors fought for the Confederacy. Don’t stop tearing the statues down because of fears for injuring my delicate southern heritage. I’m hardly having a sad that my great-great-great grandwhatever is no longer being honored for being a racist ass. If you’re doing an opinion poll of what white people with Confederate heritage think about the statues, here’s a data point to include–me: good riddance.

DominicCobb said:

the north started the war

April 12, 1861, the first shots fired were not by the Union. The “War of Northern Aggression” is exactly as much of a misnomer as it seems.