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If Hayden is going to feature in TLJ as the ghost of Anakin Skywalker, how would we feel if they portrayed him as an aged man, perhaps not quite as old looking as Shaw was, but much moreso than Hayden in 2005? Made him look not like the Jedi he was when he turned to the dark side, but the wizened figure he may have become if he had continued on as a Jedi.

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Hal 9000 said:

If Hayden is going to feature in TLJ as the ghost of Anakin Skywalker, how would we feel if they portrayed him as an aged man, perhaps not quite as old looking as Shaw was, but much moreso than Hayden in 2005? Made him look not like the Jedi he was when he turned to the dark side, but the wizened figure he may have become if he had continued on as a Jedi.

I’m of the opinion that if George was dead-set on making Hayden the new Anakin ghost, they should’ve aged him to around 50, just without the burns. It might be a little too late to do that now, though, since there would be 3 conflicting versions of Anakin’s force ghost.

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I’d like to see Luke refuse to teach Rey, deciding that it’s best if the Jedi die out and lets himself get killed.

Eh… then again that sounds a little rash.

I guess you could call me a hipster; I think the prequels are better than the originals, and I think the Beach Boys are better than the Beatles.

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Hal 9000 said:

If Hayden is going to feature in TLJ as the ghost of Anakin Skywalker, how would we feel if they portrayed him as an aged man, perhaps not quite as old looking as Shaw was, but much moreso than Hayden in 2005? Made him look not like the Jedi he was when he turned to the dark side, but the wizened figure he may have become if he had continued on as a Jedi.

Hayden as an Anakin force ghost in TLJ would REALLY upset me.

I only watch the original theatrical versions of the OT, and I never watch the prequels, so I would hate to have to see something from a version of events I’m trying to ignore.

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Something I’d love to see in The Last Jedi is the death of Snoke.

Hear me out. So say Snoke was from a very powerful, Machiavellian, Force sensitive alien race that basically ruled the universe, but he himself was rather weak in the Force. He tried to gain power in a reputable galaxy but was almost killed in an assassination attempt and fled to a garbage galaxy bereft of a strong government in order to regain his power.

Near the beginning of TLJ, Snoke’s would-be assassin has caught up with him and finishes the job. Realizing that the galaxy is in danger of learning the true nature and power of the Force, he deems it necessary to subdue this upstart galaxy.

The plot of the next two movies would center around the two factions (Republic and First Order) coming to grips with the fact that they are small fish in this pond, and working together to destroy this threat.

And yes, this is all because I dislike the idea of Snoke being the Big Bad. It’s just such a stupid name.

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The panel just started! 😄

OMG, Josh Gad!

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I know he was joking, but I’d love to see telepathic-vow-of-silence Luke.

EDIT: NEW SHIPS. Look like an update Mon Calamari Design.

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The Last Jedi teaser trailer…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

 

The Last Jedi poster…

 

In case anyone missed it…

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Panel | Star Wars Celebration Orlando 2017 video… (forward to 10mins 20secs in for the start)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh4X4N-8fEM

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NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

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Not sure if want to watch the trailer. I heard there is a relatively big reveal at the end?

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It reveals basically nothing.

Really like the poster, nice over saturated neon 80s throwback like Bob Peak.

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NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

I loved it too. The trailer confirms the ST is moving into a new direction, which I think is great!

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Amazing

That last line has me excited but it’s entirely possible Luke says the Jedi need to be no more during his first encounter with Rey and that would be problematic.

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flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

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NeverarGreat said:

flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

Exactly. I think they will reveal that balance is actually finding the balance between both the light side and the dark side. Cough cough, Grey Jedi…

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Glad to see it was truly a teaser and not some more traditional trailer like had been rumored. It reveals little more than a peak at the visual style and hearing again Luke’s voice. And is that John William’s score for this trailer?

And that poster is fantastic, I need to find a way to get that full size and have it framed. It’s far better than any SW poster has been in MANY years.

I think it wise that I stay away from the future trailers however. If it really picks up right after The Force Awakens, there’s no need to have any idea whatsoever of the plot. I know what I need to know going in.

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NeverarGreat said:

flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

But the Jedi Dogmatism was supposed to represent corruption in the Jedi (If we are to believe Lucas, who has had issues representing what he actually meant in the Prequels). The default state of the Jedi was supposed to be much more benevolent, but at some point they literally forgot their connection to the Force to use it as little more than a tool. Using the RotS novelization as a reference, Obi-Wan points out how the Jedi council in ages past didn’t bicker, but rather let the Force guide them to an answer, hinting that the Jedi lost their way.

In Jedi, that sequence was anything but Luke prevailing by channelling the darkness. If you look beyond Luke kicking Vader’s ass, the set up is that Luke lost control of himself because of Vader’s words getting to him; the music turns ominous, representing Luke going against what he stood for; and finally, when the fight ends, Luke is absolutely horrified at what he did. It wasn’t a triumph by finding “balance” between light and dark, it’s despair as our hero verges on becoming the monster he fought.

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This is the best trailer I’ve ever seen. I loved TFA and all its trailers, but this wipes the floor with them. Bring it on!

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Perhaps that last line reflects Luke’s idea that the Force has done more harm than good and perhaps wishes it would die off.

Just a thought.

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flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

flametitan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Loved the trailer, basically confirms that Luke is abandoning the Jedi for a balance.

Not sure how I feel about that. I actually really disliked how Legends started to take “balance” literally, and that the Jedi and Sith were merely philosophical differences, rather than how the Dark side was a tumour on the Force originally.

There’s no denying that the ‘Light’ side of the Force has issues as well, which is why it was only by recognizing the Dark Side that Luke was able to prevail in Jedi. The Jedi’s prohibition against some emotions and the dogma that they are impossible to overcome once indulged in was shown absolutely to be false. I for one appreciate the new direction this is taking.

But the Jedi Dogmatism was supposed to represent corruption in the Jedi (If we are to believe Lucas, who has had issues representing what he actually meant in the Prequels). The default state of the Jedi was supposed to be much more benevolent, but at some point they literally forgot their connection to the Force to use it as little more than a tool. Using the RotS novelization as a reference, Obi-Wan points out how the Jedi council in ages past didn’t bicker, but rather let the Force guide them to an answer, hinting that the Jedi lost their way.

In Jedi, that sequence was anything but Luke prevailing by channelling the darkness. If you look beyond Luke kicking Vader’s ass, the set up is that Luke lost control of himself because of Vader’s words getting to him; the music turns ominous, representing Luke going against what he stood for; and finally, when the fight ends, Luke is absolutely horrified at what he did. It wasn’t a triumph by finding “balance” between light and dark, it’s despair as our hero verges on becoming the monster he fought.

I guess this scene could mean something different for everyone. What I got from it was that Luke had previously been afraid of the Dark Side, of fear and anger themselves, due to Yoda’s teaching. Yet when he snaps and uses his anger to overcome Vader, he is working through the pent-up emotion and destroying the false serenity of his Jedi facade. Yet since he doesn’t suppress the Light Side of the Force, he isn’t consumed with the Dark Side but allows it to eventually pass out of him. When he regains his composure he recognizes how the Dark Side was able to corrupt Vader with hopelessness and fear, anger at his weakness, etc. Luke has no fear of fear itself, no further anger at his use of anger, and is truly at peace in the moment that he tosses away his lightsaber.

Again, that’s just my opinion of the scene. It’s certainly possible to read this as Luke conforming entirely to Jedi doctrine, but since he had already started down the dark path and was able to return, one of Yoda’s teachings at least was proven to be false.

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anyone figured what the whispers are in the trailer - if you listen carefully you can hear these whispers - but I can’t make them out…

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