TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released) — Page 30

Hal 9000 said:

Given the restructuring of the film this project implements, the only way to remove Snoke’s identification of Kylo’s parentage would be to remove the first Snoke scene entirely. We wouldn’t meet him until a smash cut to after the interrogation scene. Even if it weren’t outside the scope of the project, it’d be a little tough to pull off at the same time as the other stuff.
But the nice thing is that this edit will be available to any and all whom would like to take or modify it further. That’s part of why I’d like to A) make it solid and seamless, and B) stick to the original focus.

Fair enough. Looking forward to the finished product

NeverarGreat said:

Here are the completed R2 scenes, in terms of visual effects:

Absolutely wonderful idea and execution. I’ll await final audio!

Hal 9000 said:

NeverarGreat said:

Here are the completed R2 scenes, in terms of visual effects:

Absolutely wonderful idea and execution. I’ll await final audio!

Thanks! If anyone has a 5.1 setup and would like to tackle the audio, I would be most grateful.

Excellent.
After showing the first scene to a few people, I’ve decided to lengthen the final shot by 1 second to allow more time to identify what’s going on.
Also, now BB8’s antenna wobbles as it should. 😃

https://mega.nz/#!Pd0kRRbY!yD_UJjKmaPJKX8oLfa-BoETK7xY5ucPwQMgr9W3jqNA

And the sound:

https://mega.nz/#!6ZliXLyY!NyyD8wq6yn9RZW4ZpCjO8_OVqFbDAFuvSzZETV1nSKw

Cool. If we’re super lucky, the audio from the following scene can have dialogue cleanly removed so I can have seamless music and ambience during the extended bits. I’ll find out when I sit down to work on this next!

Here are NeverarGreat’s two R2 scenes with proper audio and fully formatted. The only thing missing is a few sound effects for BB8 (head turns and rolling away). Anyone have any isolated FX already I could use?

https://vimeo.com/211322567

https://vimeo.com/211322617

Password: fanedit

The videos don’t show up on Vimeo for me. There’s just a blank page after I enter the password.

JEDIT: The second video now works on Firefox, but the first one only works on Chrome. Very curious.

Anyway, the second scene is perfect now 😃. The first still needs a sound of C-3PO walking away and the BB8 sounds, as you said. I wish there was a way to fix the music so that it didn’t repeat, but it’s mostly seamless already. Nice to see this coming together.

Hal 9000 said:

Here are NeverarGreat’s two R2 scenes with proper audio and fully formatted. The only thing missing is a few sound effects for BB8 (head turns and rolling away). Anyone have any isolated FX already I could use?

https://vimeo.com/211322567

https://vimeo.com/211322617

Password: fanedit

these look great!
it really fixes the issue of r2 randomly turning on at the end

MalàStrana said:

I don’t think it really fixes this issue, but it looks less problematic that way.

Are you referring to the confusion over how R2 got the map in the first place? Because I agree that this doesn’t attempt to answer that question. This edit only attempts to fix the plot convenience of having R2 wake up at the end of the movie for no apparent reason. The fact that R2 probably has over 80 years of backup data helps explain why it would take him several hours to search it.

^Yes, true. The 3PO line will be in V2, in order to have the new R2 hard drive thing make sense. All in all, I’m happier redeeming and using it than cutting it. 😃

MalàStrana said:

Yep I agree, this is exactly what I meant 😃 And with the removal of 3PO awkward line from restructured v1 (“I don’t think R2 has the rest of the map”) it could work better now.

Heh, I didn’t realize it had been cut. Ah well, I’m glad it will work out 😃

I’ve always had a hard time with Artoo’s character in this movie. I appreciate NeverarGreat’s approach of slightly modifying and retaining. I took the cutting approach and reworked Artoo subtly into scenes to just make him awake the entire time.

https://vimeo.com/211605727
pass: fanedit.org

Thanks, and that’s a very interesting idea. In the name of keeping TFA as close to itself as possible while merely implementing low-level restructuring, I think the solution already being worked toward is more appropriate for this project. I’m enjoying the approach of changing as little as possible to have the best overall effect. That said, I’d love to see what you’ve cooked up, especially the Finn line.

If R2 had received a transmission at the end of the movie, I’d expect that would be from Luke detailing the location of the Last Jedi Temple and his route. In other words, R2 would have received the small piece of the map that BB8 has. That would mean that BB8 would have had the larger map, which would have showed the entire galaxy except for the piece that Luke would have still had to travel when he gave the map to Lor San Tekka.

Of course, that would mean that nobody would have been able to assemble a full map until the transmission, making the scramble by the Resistance and the First Order rather silly in retrospect.

NeverarGreat said:

If R2 had received a transmission at the end of the movie, I’d expect that would be from Luke detailing the location of the Last Jedi Temple and his route. In other words, R2 would have received the small piece of the map that BB8 has. That would mean that BB8 would have had the larger map, which would have showed the entire galaxy except for the piece that Luke would have still had to travel when he gave the map to Lor San Tekka.

Of course, that would mean that nobody would have been able to assemble a full map until the transmission, making the scramble by the Resistance and the First Order rather silly in retrospect.

And theres no way that someone really skilled on editing could make this idea a reality? Sounds pretty good to me, so much better than the original McGuffin

That would be extremely difficult, since there are two scenes where actors are immersed in holograms that would need to be changed. There’s also the bigger problem of just what the First Order is looking for, since it’s implied that they already have the large map from the records of the Empire (which is where R2 originally got the map according to the writers). So the First Order would be searching for a map that they already have, a movie-killing mistake. And in this edit, since the First Order is apparently unconcerned with destroying the Resistance to eliminate BB8, their quest to find Luke would be dropped entirely for a ‘Destroy the Republic’ plan instead.