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Post #1062902

Author
Hardcore Legend
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General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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Date created
5-Apr-2017, 8:43 PM

Lord Haseo said:

Hardcore Legend said:
He failed at every task he was given in the film

So did Vader in STAR WARS…

No. Vader’s plan to find the hidden Rebel base worked.

Vader ‘killed’ Ben after a fair duel between the two. Ren murdered his unarmed father after tricking him into standing really close to him and stabbing him in the heart.

Ben…let himself be killed though…Why exactly are you using this in an argument?

Also Kylo killing his father in that manner is beyond sadistic. We never seen Vader do anything that cruel and he’s a fully formed villain.

So how does that make you want to root for Kylo Ren? Two old warriors, an apprentice and a master battled and one in the end ‘died’. Vader being on the opposite side of the coin as Obi-Wan makes him evil but cool. Do a lot of people find unarmed patricide in cold blood ‘cool’?

I don’t think he is a poorly written character, I’m just confused about what appeal he has to anyone other than his helmet.

Potential

Potential for what, though? Redemption? No thanks. To become even more evil so that he can one day be destroyed by a set of heroes? Ok. But it doesn’t seem like something to ‘root’ for, which is how this whole line of conversation started.