Hardcore Legend said:
He failed at every task he was given in the film

So did Vader in STAR WARS…

Vader ‘killed’ Ben after a fair duel between the two. Ren murdered his unarmed father after tricking him into standing really close to him and stabbing him in the heart.

Ben…let himself be killed though…Why exactly are you using this in an argument?

Also Kylo killing his father in that manner is beyond sadistic. We never seen Vader do anything that cruel and he’s a fully formed villain.

I don’t think he is a poorly written character, I’m just confused about what appeal he has to anyone other than his helmet.

Potential

EDIT:

moviefreakedmind said:
and the emulation of Vader seemed a bit weak to me.

Why?