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Post #1027349

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Booshman
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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2-Jan-2017, 12:07 AM

Chewtobacca said:

To be honest, I don’t understand exactly how the ABC and RIC differ. I know that the latter has some shots that are missing from the former, but is the reverse true? I wonder if there’s a comparison of the two somewhere.

The RIC should be the longest possible version. I think it was based on an Australian broadcast. I’m not definite if that version was the longest ever and the ABC cut is similar but shorter, or if they had exclusive content in each. I’m sure there is nothing in the ABC cut that is missing from the RIC though

PlatB said:

Booshman said:

Does anyone have any tips on upscaling the DVD footage from the RIC? I have magicbullet for after effects, but if there is a better option I’d like to know. I need to increase the the size by 28%, and it would be nice for it to look as good as possible.

I am not sure about magicbullet’s resizing filters, but it might be worth trying against some of the avisynth plugins (a comparison was done a few years ago, archived here: http://archive.is/7bvQj ). One thing to keep in mind is that cleaner ratios scale better ie 25% upscaled probably comes out sharper than 28% (3 lines into every 4) - sometimes a slight black windowbox is the least worst option - though not ideal when mixing sources.

The makers of the original disc must have messed up somewhere in their workflow and it means there are a lot of frames that look like this:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/ZUak59n.jpg[/img]

Could this be sorted out with avisynth?

I have a fair amount of experience with deinterlacing across a variety of sources, but can’t tell what you are dealing with for certain without access to a short clip… but that ghosting appears to be blended fields (seen on some 24->PAL->23.976 conversions) in which case it is possible to bring back the original cadence (the old RePAL filter for Avisynth + a smartbob filter does the trick) but the footage will still have blurriness. Gets you back to 23.976 without dropped frames though.

In order to fill a 720P 4:3 frame vertically, the original 1080P source only needs to be scaled down to 96%.

I thought I would add that it makes more sense to trim the few lines off the 1080 source to make 720 rather than scaling it down 96%. You gain massively on image sharpness (very slight scaling does the most damage) and only lose 4% on the edges - hardly anything at all given what is already lost to the P&S process!

I was mistaken when I said 96%, it turned out to be 92%. I don’t want to lose 8%, and my pand and scan work is all complete at the size it is now, I don’t want to have to go back though it. Do you think it worth downscaling the video externally so it’s not down to Premiere to do it?

For the badly interlaced footage I’ll go through and see what scenes exactly are only available in the RIC and post them for you to have a crack at.

Chewtobacca said:

Booshman, another approach to integrating the 4:3 material into the BD footage is to pillarbox as well as letterbox it (after resizing it appropriately). That way, you can enjoy most of the film in widescreen. I’ve seen this done before, and it works. After all, the bulk of the film is unchanged, and the switch occurs only briefly for a few shots/sequences, which are going to stand out whatever you do. It would save you a great deal of work.

By the way how are you panning and scanning the film? It sounds as if you are managing to do it quite swiftly.

For the widescreen version I don’t want to have to just letterbox the footage. It will look bad and I think I can get better results combining footage to create some new shots.

The pan and scanning I have done by keyframeing in Premiere.