Anyone see these listed? Good for reference.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332032182718
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332025967258
The better versions of the prequels…
How came they by these prints? I wonder.
I honestly never thought prints of the prequels would surface. Wouldn’t lfl had made sure every last one was returned to them? How did they just get out there like this?
Same way as any other recent-ish film print, I guess. Others have popped up before.
Episode I was up from the same seller a few weeks ago. I guess that one sold?
It sure would be nice to have preservations of these in 35mm. I’m making the prediction now that when Adywan gets to reworking the prequels, they will be based on film scans, not the Blu-rays.
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I would really love to see proper restorations of the prequels. I mean episode 3 could be recreated easily using the Bluray, the HDTV broadcast and the NTSC DVD audio, episode 1 could be recreated using the Blu-ray, the many TV broadcasts and / or the LD transfer, but we as far as I know have no proper source for Episode II
The better versions of the prequels…
Can you elaborate please? I’d like to know more as to why the 35MM versions are superior to the other releases.
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It’s a matter of opinion, simply because they have grain and filmic contrast. I don’t believe that’s what it takes to make them look as if they were actually shot on film, however (emanswfan elaborated on this somewhere in his thread), and according to Roger Ebert there’s a noticeable dulling of detail and saturation.
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Thanks. Looking at the description, I noticed that the audio appears to be Russian (only?), which would mean sourcing an English language track from a theatrical version…
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Thanks. Looking at the description, I noticed that the audio appears to be Russian (only?), which would mean sourcing an English language track from a theatrical version…
The theatrical DTS CDs are out there to download. They’d probably be the optimal choice to use, although I see the desire for wanting to use the print’s optical track.
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I’m still hoping that 35mm scans of these two come out one day.
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I’d love to see at least the theatrical version of AOTC preserved in a high quality form. At the present, the best is the Centropy release. Is there any interest in purchasing the print? My finances are hardly stellar but I’m up for making a donation towards the cause.
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Oh man, please somebody scan the theatrical version of AOTC. If nothing else, somebody can use it to despecialize the DVD/BD versions. Although, I would also love to watch a film version of it instead of the digital version that everybody has seen.
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It’s too bad we have no real way of preserving the dlp version of AotC, nor the 120-minute 15/70 IMAX version released later that year. I still see people online mistakenly citing the extended garage scene as having been from the dlp version when I’m almost a hundred percent sure it wasn’t added until the dvd.
These film versions, ultimately, would yield a better result in terms of picture quality, from the Blu Ray release, I’d imagine. Although, one would have to purchase them and see what condition they are in.
Since both films are essentially 1920x1080, from the source that is, the film prints are in essence, an up res of the original elements. Although, that could be debated as well, since technology has progressed quite rapidly since 2002/2005, printing a digital source to film has most likely improved since this time to a point.
IMHO, I would argue that the industry is at a stopping point in terms of printing to film, since most theaters are digitally based now, rather than celluloid.
This would be a great project for someone with the resources and time. I’d imagine that Disney/Lucasfilm, will has to resort to a film print of the Epsiode II & III, if they ever release a 4K version of the Star Wars films.
I do not think there is any reason Disney would use a film source if they ever do a 4K upscale of II or III.
On another note, RoTS generally has a very good reputation for its picture quality on BD. II less so, but I think the original master is probably of low quality, as an early digital film. A TPM scan might look better to some of us here, since the Bluray release was handled pretty poorly. Presumably Disney would use the negatives.
I do not think there is any reason Disney would use a film source if they ever do a 4K upscale of II or III.
On another note, RoTS generally has a very good reputation for its picture quality on BD. II less so, but I think the original master is probably of low quality, as an early digital film. A TPM scan might look better to some of us here, since the Bluray release was handled pretty poorly. Presumably Disney would use the negatives.
You’re most likely right in this particular case. It would be great if Disney/Lucasfilm went back and compared the two masters, as I’m sure that there is a film master along with a digital one as well.
There is a great article written in Film & Video about the filming of Episode III, and the technical process that the Sony Cameras were apart of at the time. Reading it now seems very primitive to say the least.
My question is, how will this footage hold up over time when compared to material shot on digital now (2016)?
Digital today seems much more life like than Episode II & III, at least it does to me.
Both prints have been re-listed by the seller, if anyone is still considering this opportunity…
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The better versions of the prequels…
Can you elaborate please? I’d like to know more as to why the 35MM versions are superior to the other releases.
It’s a matter of opinion, simply because they have grain and filmic contrast. I don’t believe that’s what it takes to make them look as if they were actually shot on film, however (emanswfan elaborated on this somewhere in his thread), and according to Roger Ebert there’s a noticeable dulling of detail and saturation.
Since it was shot and edited on digital, wouldn’t these prints be of a lower generation anyway, even compared to the BDs (which AFAIK have the same resolution of their “negatives”)? But they could be useful for their roughly filmic look and their original unaltered scenes (like the one discussed here).
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Yes, the only reason why to get them is to get the scenes which are not available anywhere else and the original color timing