Snake Burton

PDB said:

Snake Burton said:

I'll post later today

 Thanks Snake Burton. Here is what I have (may not be the same frame)

MGM DVD/MGM BD/spoRv BD/35mm frame/UK BD

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I could not frame match but this should suffice for the SF comparison

HDNet did something i haven't yet to see with EFNY, it's the most balanced of all, I like Shouts because you can tinker with it, what I don't like is some of the other bad stuff that came with it, ie lines in the middle of the print on certain scenes

PDB said:

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UK BD is really ugly...

 Agreed. Looks like yours is the closest which is fine by me since that is the one I watch. Still curious to see what the Shout looks like. Especially to see if it has the slight blue tint of the 35mm, if the 35mm pic is to be trusted.

Sorry bro, I'll get it sorted today some time lol

I have 10 copies of teh movie ranging from LD to BD and the TV Rip

To me the Shout factory one wins but only with its own issues, which is forgivable, as its the lightest untouched copy available

I'll post later today

x5gb said:

The fact is it shows more picture, the more the better, John Carpenter and Dean Cundey are well known in making sure every inch of the full frame widescreen was used without dead space when filming their movies. The Hdtv was closer to the Scream as well framing wise which is why it was used instead of the MGM in v1.0. The whole point in the SpoRv v2.0 is to fix any errors with the Scream and I thought it has already been agreed the Scream should be used, The MGM is way to dark and like Snake Burton has said is crushed and beyond fixable and fixing the Scream will be way more fun to play with. Laserdisc Master has already asked which scenes need to be fixed in the Scream as well.

 I just put him on ignore, no need to reply to him based on his so called expert opinion

He does this on another forum too, just argues baseless facts

I'll take a picture of my EFNY collection today, pretty sure I have 10 copies on hand

:D

This is the best thing you have posted in here, thank god for ignore

OK nps, thx for the update

:D

Any news, any? News?

MGM is beyond recoverable imo, once you go black, you don't come back

Crushed blacks, you can't gamma correct at all

Yeah was the only one i could ever find on net, and it's still the better PQ of everything I own bar the SF release

1 I have is 720P, weird..

I am thinking because the newer SF is so much sharper than we get Moire on the wall

Also pretty sure HDTV was only 720P?

I have never ever noticed it before

I have never seen the blue lines either

You can see a radial pattern on the wall, 1st time Snake enters Hauk's office

It's actually really bad, it dances around vividly, I don't know what others think of it but SF are aware and let this through?

Another pic here, if you want me to circle it I can do that, I have cropped, for some reason it does not show up as well as when I am watching the film, it's quite evident in the film

here it is, 1st time we meet Huak, all the way through the scene unfortunately

I will add, its just right of the Bird emblem of the chopper, it stays in the middle of shot all the way through, if this pic isnt enough, let me know, I will post another

x5gb said:

Yea, I forgot about the moire scene, its quite bad and is something else that needs fixing for the SpoRv v2.0.

 Yes definitely, give me 5 mins, for some reason I never got emailed with a thread post...

I'm @ the train atm and you can clearly see everything shot during dark scenes, which is great

Blacks do not get crushed, but some anomalies, Dat blue line, eww

Hauk and Plissken office meet, very next shot of Snake sitting down, background image, wall moire is bad, really bad, you will see it, I wont spoil it for you

Now I was listening to Debra Hills commentary, or someone elses, where they were saying how lighting was done on Snakes head, with 1 light, red from behind, in the cockpit of the glider

This movie was pretty much shot on a shoe string budget, it was state of the art at the time when you see how they did it all

I just dont think this will get any better unless they do a proper 4K rip from the negative, and we all know this will never happen

As far as I am concerned, this is as good as it will get

Just got my copy today, 33 GB for movie, 22GB worth of extras

This might be very interesting indeed, ripping to my HDD now so I can watching on my WD TV

gamma can correct brightness, blue line more than likely from print, something they could have omitted during transfer

I have a sneaking suspicion that the SF release is going to be a very cool thing to play around with

It's comes with the best possible sound source, DTSMA

An amazing PQ for ability to resolve more detail than any previous releases

I lighter PQ which allows for another gamma treatment

All these things lead to someone who is as skillful as our beloved CatMan, having an un tampered copy of EFNY which can now be adjusted to suit as an intended release

Remember, once something is too dark, nothing can be done to fix any underlying issues

I am guessing no pun intended that the SF release is a somewhat Darkhorse lighter expose release which can be gamma corrected

Blacks are not crushed on this copy either, the sound is as good as it gets imo

I have 9 copies of this film thus far, I'd like just 1 so I can enjoy

Oh just so you know, some revealing things, you can see when Airforce one is doing a flyby in the cloudscape, 1 of the clouds has a nice black pole holding up another cloud, which I have never ever noticed, or can remember, in my last 300 viewings of this film

I am then treated to heli fly over of NYC, in Green pseudo CGI, I see cars on the ground, I had to do a double take

Even the blips have new meaning to this film

Start of the film, when you 1st see the map, radial circles, all the detail, all I can say is, best detail resolving copy I have seen

I am seeing stuff that I have never seen before, I can resolve images that are not in other sources, I can see heat haze of fires that now show as shadows on walls, little nuances like this

While the colors can be a little off, the image quality is certainly there

I have managed to view the newer SF disk from torrentz, it's actually quiet revealiing

I'm using a Panasonic 60 Inch ST60A Plasma to view and even though this is a 10GB rip, I can see things I have yet to see in any other source material

I ordered mine along with some other stuff, and I watched the rip 4 times in 1 day

:D

It seems to me that the BD has been Anamorphically corrected too? displaying more information? but this could just be that the initial HDTV RIP was cropped?

These screen shots seem better as a comparison now, for $20, I think it's worth buying..

Looks like SF completely fucked this one

WTF these 2nd rate Production houses keep releasing shit like this is beyond me

I look forwards to your release Mr Cat

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