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Info: Any Interest In A Corrected 2004 DVD? (“Deliberate Creative Decisions” info)

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I, for one, very much am. It'll give a nice start to de-SEing Star Wars from the current DVDs, albeit a small step. So yes, I'm interested. Anyone else?

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I'm interested too. Like ReverendBeastly said, it will give a good start to de-SEing the current dvds.
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To quote Luke in "Return Of The Jedi", I'm with you too! Count me in!!!

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I am always up for adding another version to my collection, especially when it corrects someone else's mistake.

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I am guessing this 5.1 mix was taken from the 1997 LD set..?
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Yes.

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Good. Then the damn Krayt dragon call ought to be fixed too (it was fine in the '97 mix).

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The Krayt Dragon call is correct, as is Vader's voice. The music is present during the Death Star dive and not mixed incorrectly throughout the entire film.

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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I find this very interesting, but I myself am not interested in this; however I posted to say I never minded the "new" Vader voice; in fact I always hated the fact that it is completely different from the other movies. However, I believe in historical preservation *as well* as an artist's right to revise his work as long as the original isn't superceded by it, as Lucas is doing.
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Definitely interested.
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
I never minded the "new" Vader voice; in fact I always hated the fact that it is completely different from the other movies.

I love that Star Wars is different from the other movies. Every change Lucas makes to the movie to make it more in line with the rest of the films only validates what a unique and great movie it was. Plus, I just can't get used to the revised Vader voice. I heard it on the split screen disc the other day and it completely took me out of the movie.

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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I am guessing this 5.1 mix was taken from the 1997 LD set..?


Ah. So this is the same 5.1 mix that I mentioned a few weeks ago in another thread, and somebody answered back that the reason the 1997 audio should not be used was because it is (supposedly) little better than an upsampled 4.0 Surround Sound mix (at least that was the gist...)?

Neil, add me to the 'interested' column.



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Sign me up aswell, Im interesed to.....
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Listen, do you smell that......?






<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Neil, I'm up for it. Furthermore, I can help to mux the audio back in for a DL version of the disc, replacing out the shoddy 5.1 track that currently exists. PM me with details. I'd also like the opportunity to use this mix on my forthcoming re-edit.

The Digital Bits hasn't responded to any of my findings either. I'm not too pleased with those guys. I empathize.

I'm assuming you've done extensive quality checking on this new mix and it sounds perfectly awesome?
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
So this is the same 5.1 mix that I mentioned a few weeks ago in another thread, and somebody answered back that the reason the 1997 audio should not be used was because it is (supposedly) little better than an upsampled 4.0 Surround Sound mix (at least that was the gist...)?

A 4 track printmaster was used to create this track, but it was the original 1977 printmaster. That's closer than what was used for the 2004 DVD, which in many ways sounds nothing like Star Wars. The mono surround channel was run through a Meridian Home THX processor to decorrolate the surrounds. Also spot effects were mixed in, so in the end it is a stereo surround channel. Just listen to the fight with the TIE fighters. They will circle around the listening room. The music is mono in the surrounds, so the horrible mix heard on the 2004 DVD is a non-issue.

The way this track was made, it has some hiss on it, but once you realize that it once again sounds like the Star Wars you are familiar with, it won't bother you.

Neil

Well at least the reversed surround channels have been addressed.

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<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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This has now been added to my collection (I've had it for a while now but I was out of harddrive space)

And yes, a torrent is forthcoming maybe in a few months or less - please be patient gang I have MANY more torrents coming first and I try to release once every two weeks

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sounds good. it would be nice if the sound was provided as a seperate ac3 file we could play with. it would be nice to have access to a properly mixed 5.1 from an official source material disc that wouldn't need to much screwing with to make it fit an original version of the film.

rikter if I was to mail you a disc or make some arrangement to get this thing would you be willing to burn a copy off for me?
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I gotta agree with Tellan. If the audio was provided as simply an ac3 file, it would be a much faster download and anyone with the original DVD could rip, and reburn with the new audio track or add it as a secondary audio track (both on the same disc, that would be nice).

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Sounds lovely, and sounds like a good first step to creating what I've been waiting for for far too long now ... a good laserdisc/2004 DVD hybrid edit (reconstructing the O-OT edition) with good sound.

Seems to be a touchy question on these boards, as the '04 DVD is considered too different in quality to mix with the LD etc ... yet I had absolutely no trouble doing so throughout my Deleted Magic DVD of ANH, and it all looked quite nice. (Check out my version of the Death Star trench run, in particular, and believe!) So ... pestering again. Do I have to do it myself? Tsk tsk ...