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OMEN!-_-!'s avatar
RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Funcha said:

I've been forgetting to ask, what have you been using for video for original theatrical scenes not represented in the special edition? Uprezzed gout or rotoscoping in elements? Thinking of the original transition in Mos Eisley replaced with the bad Jabba scene in the SE specifically.

For the Mos Eisley transition, neither of those two options, I just implemented a left to right soft wipe between the two cuts much like the other wipes found in the film, fits very nicely and doesn't draw attention to itself. The only scene that comes to mind where I have no choice but to use the GOUT is Lapti Nek, which I will be definately including.

Just a little update guys, I haven't had much free time this week to put towards this project but I have managed to finish reencoding and improving the Phantom Menace blu-ray transfer, so that's six films now done, leaving me with only the original trilogy with little bits here and there to finish off.

Last edited on February 26, 2012 at 1:46 PM by OMEN!-_-!
DoomBot's avatar
RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

I'm glad to hear your on your way to completing them all.

It must take along time to re-encode a blu-ray movie close to 20 hours maybe? Not sure what software you use is it Adobe Premiere or Vegas Pro?

 

Well i'm still looking forward to this massive release of movies Omen. More so the original trilogy and Lord of the Rings.

OMEN!-_-!'s avatar
RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

DoomBot said:

I'm glad to hear your on your way to completing them all.

It must take along time to re-encode a blu-ray movie close to 20 hours maybe? Not sure what software you use is it Adobe Premiere or Vegas Pro?

 

Well i'm still looking forward to this massive release of movies Omen. More so the original trilogy and Lord of the Rings.

Depends really but when i'm doing only colour regrading with the settings set at highest quality with the program I use, a normal length film of say 2 hours takes around 16 hours for my computer to reencode. That gives me pretty much identical image quality to the blu-ray, at least as far as my eyes pixel-peeping on a 30 inch monitor can tell.

That said, encoding the Phantom Menace required a lot more time than that but I don't want to scare you guys haha

As for what program I use, it's my little secret (mostly because I don't want Dark Jedi, Harmy and other editors here taking the piss) but its neither of those two you mentioned, I tried changing to Vegas Pro recently and it seemed way too complicated for me. I haven't tried Adobe Premiere but I'm guessing its also very complicated with a steep learning curve. I know these two are meant to be the benchmarks in colour grading/editing/effects but I'm very satisfied with the quality i'm able to get with what I use. I'm a simple guy so I like to keep things simple. :)

Last edited on February 27, 2012 at 11:29 PM by OMEN!-_-!
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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

OMEN!-_-! said:


As for what program I use, it's my little secret (mostly because I don't want Dark Jedi, Harmy and other editors here taking the piss) but its neither of those two you mentioned, I tried changing to Vegas Pro recently and it seemed way too complicated for me. I haven't tried Adobe Premiere but I'm guessing its also very complicated with a steep learning curve.

LOL, I can relate. I have been using Power Director for all my projects until SW v2.0 :-) I too tried Vegas and found it too complicated so I gave up for a while and stuck with Power Director, but then when I found out the PD is just not gonna cut it for v2.0, I tried Premiere and it's great and it made things so much easier too, I can do a lot of stuff that I couldn't before and it was surprisingly easy to learn.

Last edited on February 27, 2012 at 11:38 PM by Harmy

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OMEN!-_-!'s avatar
RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Hey, I've got a question for you guys.

Do you think its better with these dual layer blu-ray releases to max out the image quality and only include the dts-hd audio or to sacrifice a bit of the image quality to add normal dts audio tracks or dolby 5.1 tracks etc.?

I'm asking because right now I'm maxing out the video bitrates so there's no free space left on the blu-ray after adding the DTS-HD audio. Is that a problem for any people here, to only have the dts-hd audio? I don't have a dts-hd surround sound system but my tv doesn't have any problems playing the dts-hd audio through its speakers, so is there really any reason to add other inferior audio tracks and waste space needlessly?

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

The way I understand it, dts-hd contains the dts core track + extentions to make it lossless, so there should be no need for adding a separate dts core soundtrack. On the other hand, I think that even on the official BD, the video track itself is only about 30GB, so maxing out the bitrate to fill the disc seems to be a bit overkill.

LIST OF MY PROJECTS

Mona Lisa Special Edition

Pennsylvania Jones said:

"Stick and Stones will break my bones but the Blu-Rays will never Harmy." 

Lucas: I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further.

Fans: This film is getting worse all the time!

 

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

I would keep the DTS-HD Master like Harmy said. Since your editing parts then your version will only work and i won't be able to take from the blu-ray i have.

Last edited on February 28, 2012 at 1:05 AM by DoomBot
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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Harmy said:

The way I understand it, dts-hd contains the dts core track + extentions to make it lossless, so there should be no need for adding a separate dts core soundtrack.

Agree with Harmy, I can confirm I use DTS-HD with my surround sound system and DTS-HD will automatically downgrade itself to standard DTS core if played through a non DTS-HD system.

Sounds exciting there OMEN mustn't be to long now, right ?

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Any new updates for us Omen?

Haven't seen you on here in a long time now, everything alright?

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Hey Omen, you still around? 

 

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Don't worry, folks. I'm sure he'll be back on. Besides, raising the Antichrist takes a lot of time out of one's schedule!

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

I would say this project is 100% dead. OMEN hasn't chimed in for a very long time now.  That's to bad, i was really looking forward to this.

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RE: regrading/editing original trilogy using blu-rays and german hdtv streams to remove bad but not all specialised/blu-ray changes

Yeah I pm'd him a few weeks ago and never heard back. 

 

"In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten." - George Lucas


"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them." - George Lucas


 

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