I'm all too familiar with that one. Movies on tv have it as well, along with "edited for content", "edited for time", and the infamous "time compressed." Still trying to figure out what the hell "time expanded" means. Is the movie running slower? 

I just cackle maniacally over the "your screen" part. How the @#$! do they know what fits my screen! ;)

SilverWook said:

I just cackle maniacally over the "your screen" part. How the @#$! do they know what fits my screen! ;)

Well, once upon a time, all screens were the same ratio ;-)

Which is why the Laserdisc gods created Letterboxing. :P

If the GOUT ever comes out on Blu-ray, I hope each disc has this warning before the films:

Warning: This film does not reflect the CREATOR'S Original Vision and should be viewed as a WORKPRINT ONLY.

greenpenguino said:

This is true. I did kinda do this on the train home. My ringtone used to be Mark Hamil's line 'It's lucky you don't taste very good' (I had it because of a joke some friends and I made when talking about SEs.) Then two young kids (Not little kids, they were 12-13) came up to me recognizing Hamil's voice and asked me where it was from. When I told them it was from empire they laughed, telling me I was an idiot because that line wasn't in empire because they knew every line or something. They talked about 'Lucas' Vision' and the prequels being amazing because of Yoda's Light-sabre fights.

I then (kinda angrily, I don't like being called an idiot, certainly not by ignorant prequelite children) 'told' them that I was a film student (which I am), about the O-OT, problems with SE and the stupidity of the prequels .etc. Long story short, I made one of them cry and they ran off.

(I don't mean to sound like a horrible ass-hole on the train that picks fights with kids, but the two children were so unpleasant and their views so 'warped' that I felt an obligation to 'correct' them.)

 

 

(Sorry if I sound like a complete asshole)

Bookmarked for future use in sig. ;-)

Ziggy Stardust said:

greenpenguino said:

This is true. I did kinda do this on the train home. My ringtone used to be Mark Hamil's line 'It's lucky you don't taste very good' (I had it because of a joke some friends and I made when talking about SEs.) Then two young kids (Not little kids, they were 12-13) came up to me recognizing Hamil's voice and asked me where it was from. When I told them it was from empire they laughed, telling me I was an idiot because that line wasn't in empire because they knew every line or something. They talked about 'Lucas' Vision' and the prequels being amazing because of Yoda's Light-sabre fights.

I then (kinda angrily, I don't like being called an idiot, certainly not by ignorant prequelite children) 'told' them that I was a film student (which I am), about the O-OT, problems with SE and the stupidity of the prequels .etc. Long story short, I made one of them cry and they ran off.

(I don't mean to sound like a horrible ass-hole on the train that picks fights with kids, but the two children were so unpleasant and their views so 'warped' that I felt an obligation to 'correct' them.)

 

 

(Sorry if I sound like a complete asshole)

Bookmarked for future use in sig. ;-)

Damn straight!

Mielr said:

"You know you just look like a stupid bitch for disabling comments on your Han Shot First video. How about you grow up you little faggot and learn how to handle words like a man. You had no legit reason to ban people from commenting on your video, you were just being an annoying bitch. Grow up kid."

Mielr - just to clarify, you're female right?

Penguiniform the gentleman in your avatar famously provoked a similar response in a young Star Wars fan so you are in good company.

see you auntie said:

Mielr said:

"You know you just look like a stupid bitch for disabling comments on your Han Shot First video. How about you grow up you little faggot and learn how to handle words like a man. You had no legit reason to ban people from commenting on your video, you were just being an annoying bitch. Grow up kid."

Mielr - just to clarify, you're female right?

She may be, but I doubt she is a canine...

Bingowings said:

Penguiniform the gentleman in your avatar famously provoked a similar response in a young Star Wars fan so you are in good company.

Penguiniform.....????

You mean me????

Young Alec Guinness provoked a similar response to what...??

No, no, no.  He's saying that a Alec Guiness once made a young Star Wars fan cry.

Gaffer Tape said:

No, no, no.  He's saying that a Alec Guiness once made a young Star Wars fan cry.

Young Alec Guinness said:

I make/will make children cry. But that's ok because I played/will play Obi-wan kenobi. Now what was that George said/will say about...pre-quels???

Sounds like a ridiculous idea to me

If you've read "Once Upon a Galaxy", he was getting all sorts of crazy fan mail, so Sir Alec can be forgiven for being a little testy about what became his most famous role.

He really should have looked at his bank account before venting frustration on a little kid though! ;)

see you auntie said:

Mielr said:

"You know you just look like a stupid bitch for disabling comments on your Han Shot First video. How about you grow up you little faggot and learn how to handle words like a man. You had no legit reason to ban people from commenting on your video, you were just being an annoying bitch. Grow up kid."

Mielr - just to clarify, you're female right?

Monolithium said:

If the GOUT ever comes out on Blu-ray, I hope each disc has this warning before the films:

Warning: This film does not reflect the CREATOR'S Original Vision and should be viewed as a WORKPRINT ONLY.

Yeah, but which Original Vision? - 1974, 1977, 1981, 1984, 1995, 1997, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2013, 2014....

;-)

Ah, you forgot 1993! ;)

You're all forgetting George's original original vision! ;)

Anchorhead said:

Monolithium said:

If the GOUT ever comes out on Blu-ray, I hope each disc has this warning before the films:

Warning: This film does not reflect the CREATOR'S Original Vision and should be viewed as a WORKPRINT ONLY.

Yeah, but which Original Vision? - 1974, 1977, 1981, 1984, 1995, 1997, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2013, 2014....

 

;-)

 You know, this is a really good point with regards to "original vision" arguments. Which "original" vision are people talking about? His original vision when he first started it? It was called Flash Gordon, and it eventually was released in 1980 from another director. Or how about his vision when he first wrote a story called The Star Wars? In that case, it's an outer space remake of Hidden Fortress. Or how about his first screenplay? That would be a combination of the two previous remakes, with Han as a green alien with gills, Luke Skywalker a 60-year old General, and Princess Leia a 14 year old girl, with a human General Darth Vader and an Emperor Cos Dashit. Or do they mean some arbitrary other screenplay down the line--perhaps the second or third drafts from 1975? Or do they mean his "original vision" at the time of the start of photography--well, that was released in 1977, faithful to the screenplay and with Lucas having final cut. Actually, scratch that, he re-wrote during filming--the "original vision" version would have to change the last name of Luke to Starkiller and have Ben Kenobi survive, thus necessitating removing his ghost from the sequels and explaining where he went after Episode IV. He'd have to overdub all mentions of "Skywalker" in the prequels and sequels as well, since that wasn't his original vision. And hmm, doesn't Vader have his helmet off in a conference scene in the shooting script, guess he wasn't all scared up from lava at that time, have to re-film ROTS' ending.

Ironically, the "vision" that 1997 and 2004 (and 2011/etc.) Special Editions represent are not "original" in any sort of pre-release sense. It's actually the complete opposite of original. If you want to see the film Lucas originally envisioned, you can't, because it was never made. If you want to see the film Lucas originally made, go watch the GOUT. This nonesense about an "original vision" Special Edition is total double-speak.

Best concise counter-argument to the "original vision" crap I've ever read.  This should be the required response to anyone who ever tries to tout that line.

The whole "original vision" thing isn't rooted it any kind of logic.  It's just creepy cult dogma!  Believe it.  Take it on faith, even if all the objective evidence clearly defies it.

97 Luke squawks like Palpatine (if he wanted him to make a sound, it's a decision I disagree with but I could have probably handled it but of all the soundfiles to use he chose THAT ONE).

When I heard that for the first time my brain just gave up.

The Greedo and Jabba stuff from a few weeks earlier when I saw ANH:SE I could almost put down to shock of the new (until it stopped being new enough to dismiss that as a possibility) but that was just weird.

I'm like sure..., uh, I don't know if I can handle this, y'know... I was like really embarrassed... 

Almost like Lucas was doing some sort of freaky mind control slight of hand experiment.