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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

So in the Clone Wars cartoon is this thread recommending that Yoda be shown going to Speech Therapy class?  That would be an excellent episode.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Great idea! But he's that bad minutes before he goes to Dagobah, so maybe it's a correspondence course he only does when he has the free time in exile.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

But how does he fit that in when he's teaching Street Hip Hop on Wednesdays?

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Yea Drew, I was thinking Old Trilogy and New Trilogy, inspired by the Bible. =)

I tried not to be biased in my collection and interpretation of the data, but I'd be lying if I didn't start with the knowledge that the original movies are considered pure and inviolate by most of the people reading these posts. That being said, I think the data speaks for itself.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Hmm, destroyed Star Wars Lucas has.  Once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny.

Hard to see the dark side is. Harder even for a billionaire to afford a decent transfer of a classic film trilogy.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Very interesting.  I always knew there was something seriously wrong with the way Yoda talks in the prequels, but never really went to the trouble of thinking about it in depth before.  My understanding of grammatical principles is based much more on how they sound than the specific terminology of sentence structure (I can convincingly write in different speech modes without necessarily being able to describe exactly why it should sound a certain way).  These results definitely fit with the sense of wrongness previously perceived, and I agree that Yoda's speech was much less convoluted and more intelligible originally.

I seem to recall hearing or reading an interview with Lawrence Kasdan at one point where he said that he was very careful and deliberate in choosing exactly how Yoda would phrase things, and what sort of sentence structure he would use.  Since he was not involved with the prequels, obviously this did not carry over to those films.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

doubleofive, you should send your research over to these folks: (via tf.n)

http://www.tampabay.com/features/popculture/like-yoda-talk-on-may-21-you-must/1170663

at least post it in the comments, see if you can get on Daniel Wallace's radar.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies
And 31 backwards is 13! Ay carumba!

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

I know it's been a while, hope all is well with your daughter Tim! =)

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Thanks for the concern! She's doing very well -- she got through the surgery, the arm restraints are off, and she's sweeter than ever. She just had her first birthday, and everyone we see tells us she's the cutest baby they've ever seen. =)

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

For those interested, I have adapted this study into a cohesive article:

http://www.secrethistoryofstarwars.com/yodaspeak.html

 

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

I still don't understand anything Tim said, but at least all of our work now resides somewhere less forum-y!

The formatting could use some standardization, and maybe Tim should be my "college roommate", as Mrs O'Five might be offended. ;-)

Last edited on June 22, 2011 at 1:26 AM by doubleofive

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Thread link you should.  Discussion over, is not.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Yeah, the formatting I think is from the pasting of his posts. I'll correct it soon, and also I forgot that Tim doesn't live with you anymore. :p It's weird, because looking at the article in Chrome the formatting is correct, be in IE it's all inconsistent. Looks like I'll have to do some HTML editing.

None: I will happily update or correct the article if there is any significant contributions to the discussion in the future.

Last edited on June 22, 2011 at 2:30 AM by zombie84

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

none said:

Thread link you should.  Discussion over, is not.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Jeopardy:

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

^

Dr Carol Marcus says:

Who is Yoda?

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    orth’ bháis’s bethad,
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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

Bingowings said:


^


Dr Carol Marcus says:
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Who is Yoda?
It's a long story.

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

David Marcus said:

Plenty of time we appear to have.

The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit.  Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.

 

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

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RE: Yodaspeak: A Study In Yoda's Speaking Patterns and Their Frequency in the Star Wars Movies

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/07/23/frank-oz-to-star-wars-fans-do-the-yoda-impression-i-wont/

Frank Oz was the voice of the wise and beloved Yoda and, more than 30 years after the character’s debut, not a month goes by without a fan approaching Oz with a simple request — but the answer is always the same: Do the impression he won’t.

The 68-year-old Hollywood Renaissance man — Muppet puppeteer, movie director and the voice behind the pint-sized Jedi master — holds his characters too sacred for such tripe.

“You wouldn’t parade your kids around like that, would you?” he said. “They’re part of me. I won’t use them as a party favor to impress people.”

 

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