Monolithium said:

The meaningless stupidity that is Attack of the Clones.

That's what you liked?

TV's Frink said:

Monolithium said:

The meaningless stupidity that is Attack of the Ridiculous.

OF COURSE!!

Fixed

Watto, yes, best part of the prequels!

Not that I'm biased.

^I agree...except for the wacky "BOING" when he drops the tool on his foot. :-/

TV's Frink said:

Monolithium said:

The meaningless stupidity that is Attack of the Clones.

That's what you liked?

Yup.

I HATE TPM.  I STRONGLY DISLIKE ROTS.  I ENJOY AOTC.

AOTC is the best of the prequels.

Paparazzo said:

AOTC is the best of the prequels.

I used to think that, when I was seven. :p

Anyway, here's what I liked about the prequels:

1. The John Williams score was on-par with the OT.

2. A lot of the planets, spaceships, battles, etc. had potential, but the CG work ruined it.

3. Ric Olie

4. Some of the actual costumes and animatronics were great.

5. I liked the Bantha in TPM when they are in Mos Espa.

That's about all I have to say about that.

I must once again recount the small amount of things I like from the PT ... sigh.

1. Liam Neeson

2. Ewan McGregor

3. John Williams' score

4. Amidala's chrome starship

5. Watto

6. Darth Maul

7. Darth Maul's lightsaber

8. The whole "Jedi as interstellar Pharisees" thing

9. Dex (What can I say? I like his personality and even his design. It would have been better if he had been brought to life through practical effects, though)

10. The Kaminoans

11. Mace Windu's lightsaber

12. General Grevious' visual design

13. Anakin retaining his blue lightsaber in his duel with Obi-Wan

And that's all I can think of.

Paparazzo said:

AOTC is the best of the prequels.

Nah. JJ Abram’s Star Trek is the best Star Wars prequel

You know, I suspect that if these movies came out in sequential order rather than OT, then PT, people would see them as inferior but still decent films.  The passion on this board amuses me.  I certainly don't like the PT nearly as much, but I can still watch and enjoy them.  In my mind, I can incorporate them into my personal Star Wars canon or disregard them, depending on my mood.

To keep with the point of the thread, I would like to comment on one particular aspect which I know has been criticized, but seems logical to me, especially in light of the EU and reality.  As we know, power corrupts.  Any power like the force would be so tempting as to be truly corrupting.  In the Star Wars universe, I suspect that when the force was first discovered, most wielders found themselves utilizing it for evil.  As Yoda said, the dark side is quicker, easier, more seductive.  But it is not more powerful.  As those who learned to use the force become more aware of its capabilities, they also realized that great discipline must accompany its mastery, else the user would fall to the dark side.

So now we get to the PT.  The Jedi are an extremely rigid and disciplined group.  They are indeed powerful force users, but only because they are willing to take years to master the good rather than days to master the evil.  But at the same time, their rigidity contributed to Anakin's fall, their inability to detect Palpatine's growing influence, and it ultimately led to their downfall.

To sum up, I know most do not like the portrayal of the Jedi Order, but to me, it is actually a logical system for security that simultaneously leads to their demise.  I like this idea.  The dark side is not stronger, but the light is so difficult to master.

darth_ender said:

You know, I suspect that if these movies came out in sequential order rather than OT, then PT, people would see them as inferior but still decent films.

I can sum up the opposing viewpoint in one image...

The hate for the PT goes beyond when it was released, and rightfully so.

Had they been released in order, there would have never been Episodes 2-6.

The internet is a great place for people with passion to state their viewpoints as absolute facts.  I don't mean to criticize.  I enjoy reading your posts, and you guys make me laugh.  But simply because this website exists does not mean that the PT would not have been popular of its own accord.  There are four Pirates of the Carribean movies, and the first was the only enjoyable film in my mind.  Star Trek has come out with 11 movies, some of them horrendously bad.  How many horror films have produced innumerable stupid sequels, yet still garner a loyal fan-base?  Just watched the new X-men movie, and that is a franchise that has really gone downhill in my mind, but I doubt they're done.

Likewise, there are websites devoted to bashing the new Batman franchise, which I greatly enjoy.  It's hard for most Internet surfers to believe, but there are other opinions out there.  And to top it off, those with differing opinions are actually allowed to feel that way.  Divergent opinions are still valid.

I hope not to make enemies at a site entitled originialtrilogy.com.  I am disappointed with the PT as well.  But I can still enjoy them and feel no guilt for doing so; I will sleep fine tonight, even with the knowledge that others here think I'm a heretic and/or moron.  I enjoy all your points of view, and will happily post something when I ifeel like it, wishing no ill will on those who think that unaltered OT is the Word of God that shall not be tampered with.  I come to this site because I truly love the originals, but also because I love all the variations, official and official.

Why are there all those laser dots shining on my head and chest?

darth_ender said:

There are four Pirates of the Carribean movies, and the first was the only enjoyable film in my mind.  Star Trek has come out with 11 movies, some of them horrendously bad.  How many horror films have produced innumerable stupid sequels, yet still garner a loyal fan-base?  Just watched the new X-men movie, and that is a franchise that has really gone downhill in my mind, but I doubt they're done.

To my point, had the 3rd PotC been first, there would have never been sequels.  Had Star Trek The Motion Picture been first, (you know what I mean) there would have never been sequels.

Had there not been something good to begin with, there wouldn't have been sequels.

The PT would not have fared well without the goodwill engendered by the OT.

There are a lot of opinions out there- but, in my opinion- having an opinion doesn't necessarily mean it's a valid one.

twooffour said:

There was a third thread named like this, where I wrote down a lot of points. Can't find it anywhere though... oh well.
Nice thread :)

 http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/No-but-seriously-What-we-like-about-the-Prequels/topic/11950/

It's currently on the front page of this forum.  And it was linked on post 6 of this thread as well.

TV's Frink said:

darth_ender said:

You know, I suspect that if these movies came out in sequential order rather than OT, then PT, people would see them as inferior but still decent films.

I can sum up the opposing viewpoint in one image...

The hate for the PT goes beyond when it was released, and rightfully so.

Good lord! I forgot how fake he looks.

darth_ender said:

You know, I suspect that if these movies came out in sequential order rather than OT, then PT, people would see them as inferior but still decent films.

timdiggerm said:

darth_ender said:

You know, I suspect that if these movies came out in sequential order rather than OT, then PT, people would see them as inferior but still decent films.

Have you seen the Red Letter Media reviews?

 No, I haven't, but I'll take a look when I can.  I did read the Wikipedia article on it.  I'm sure it is insightful, and I look forward to when I can.  Believe me, I have problems with the PT, but if we look with perspective, we'll see many of the same problems with other films we are more accepting towards.  The biggest variable is that other popular films don't have the OT to build up greater expectations.

You know, I expected more comments regarding the Jedi Order which comprised the bulk of my message, not the first couple of sentences.  Oh well :)