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Good evening all. I'm a Star Wars from Mexico. As we all know, preservation of the original Star Wars films in their unaltered edits has become has become a hot topic these years. At the same time, in Latin America, the original spanish dubs that were in theaters (and seen several times on TV before the SE) have become somewhat of a holy grail for us fans from Mexico.
The 2004 DVDs featured new dubs as the originals could not match with the altered scenes/dialogue. These dubbings aren't bad at all (as they're done by the Jesus Barrero studio), but it's a shame the ones I grew up with have long been replaced by it. The GOUT DVDs themeselves apparently carry the European spanish dubbings too, whereas the R4 versions of that release are only in english.
So, does anyone know of a source (TV, VHS, etc) that can be used to preserve these rarities? It would be a shame if they were lost in time as it has happened to so many goodies of the franchise.
Here are samples of those dubbings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkxKhPaBnGk
negative1
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negative1well, hopefully we will have
the entire soundtrack in MONO.
by the way, none of those links
work anymore...
here's a very short snippet of c3po
dubbed..
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http://www.zshare.net/audio/9939406778e1f0e2/
(and r2d2) ha ha
later
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Mavimao
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Padawan LearnerIf one were looking for a high quality source, perhaps Laserdisk? Was the Mexican dub used for all of Latin America?
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.The Spanish (Castilian?) GOUT dubs are definitely preserved, but it's odd they aren't on the R4 DVDs! The Latin American theatrical Spanish dub, if different from GOUT, I don't know about...
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U u uwa uwa...So the Spanish dub on the R1 is Castilian?
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A légpárnás hajóm tele van angolnákkal.Pretty sure, yes. Even if you don't know the different dialects very well, you could probably just listen for ordenadores vs computadoras to confirm.
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This space for rentMavimao said:
If one were looking for a high quality source, perhaps Laserdisk? Was the Mexican dub used for all of Latin America?
I'm just a gringo, but from what I've read, I believe that the Mexican dub (actually done in Los Angeles) was indeed used for all of Latin America.
As for high-quality sources: You'd think that the Latin American Spanish dubs would have been released on video...but you'd be wrong. From what I can gather, all of the pre-SE Latin American video releases were in English with Spanish subtitles. Why, I have no idea.
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negative1we're almost done capturing the spanish audio
tracks for our version.
it will be one of the options when we
are finished with our project.
más tarde
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The Interweb is a Series of TubesDoes anyone know where I can get a copy of the original Spanish rental VHS (from Spain)? There's no "Episode IV" in the crawl on that tape, right?
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Maybe reaching out in other SW forums (example: http://www.starwarsspanishstuff.info/), otherwise resellers like ebay seem to be the only option.
Here's some pics from a forthcoming TWC073: (not certain if it's a Rental or the 80s Alquiler : La Guerra de las Galaxias)


Subtitles:
(picts of the rest of the subs are in the folder)
negative1
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negative1i should be checking out a preview
of the spanish version of the soundtrack
pretty soon. will be interesting to hear
the different voices for the characters.
i'll try to post a short sample also.
later
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negative1
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negative1well, i guess it's not THAT short of a sample,
but the first reel, just for comparison with
the mono one...
maybe someone can tell if it's the original
dub or not?
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http://soundcloud.com/negative1/sw-spanish-r1
excelente!
muchas gracias.
más tarde
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This Spanish Print audio does not match the audio from the above mentioned TWC073 80s VHS 'La Guerra de las Galaxias'. There is the identified Mono mix difference in the sirens, but the dialog is different.
Project Threepio v4 has:
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¿Has oído eso?
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Han alcanzado al reactor principal.
Nos van a destruir seguro.
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¡Qué locura!
Spanish Print Mono sounds like:
¿Has oído eso?
Destruir reactor principal.
Sindolta sero mastofin (¿sounds like? the words are not being translated by online translators, and I don't know any spanish And I don't know any spanish.)
¡Esto es una locura!
TWC073 80s VHS 'La Guerra de las Galaxias' sounds like:
¿Has oído eso?
Han alcanzado al reactor principal.
Nos van a destruir.
¡Esto es una locura!
Do we have an answer for if the Spanish (country) is different then the Latin American Spanish versions? and these three don't match an 80s VHS Catalan audio. (this Catalan sounds like they got a woman for 3po)
gme4
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Madrid Spaceport
none said:
This Spanish Print audio does not match the audio from the above mentioned TWC073 80s VHS 'La Guerra de las Galaxias'. There is the identified Mono mix difference in the sirens, but the dialog is different.
Project Threepio v4 has:
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00:02:47,834 --> 00:02:49,634
¿Has oído eso?
15
00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:53,101
Han alcanzado al reactor principal.
Nos van a destruir seguro.
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00:02:53,201 --> 00:02:55,001
¡Qué locura!
Spanish Print Mono sounds like:
¿Has oído eso?
Destruir reactor principal.
Sindolta sero mastofin (¿sounds like? the words are not being translated by online translators, and I don't know any spanish And I don't know any spanish.)
¡Esto es una locura!
TWC073 80s VHS 'La Guerra de las Galaxias' sounds like:
¿Has oído eso?
Han alcanzado al reactor principal.
Nos van a destruir.
¡Esto es una locura!
Do we have an answer for if the Spanish (country) is different then the Latin American Spanish versions? and these three don't match an 80s VHS Catalan audio. (this Catalan sounds like they got a woman for 3po)
The TWC073 80s VHS is the European Spanish / Castillian dub version (this is the one I heard when I was little) but the Spanish Mono Print appears to be the missing Latin American Original dub (it is in a Latin American accent, probably from Mexico?).
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Leonardo
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Disco Stu likes Disco music!What 3PO actually says is:
¿Oiste eso?
Destruyeron el reactor principàl.
¡Sin duda sera nuestro fin!
¡Esto es una locura!
I've studied a bit of spanish at uni, I don't actually speak it, but mostly I have a good ear for these kinda things.
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
gme4
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Madrid SpaceportLeonardo said:
What 3PO actually says is:
¿Oiste eso?
Destruyeron el reactor principàl.
¡Sin duda sera nuestro fin!
¡Esto es una locura!
I've studied a bit of spanish at uni, I don't actually speak it, but mostly I have a good ear for these kinda things.
¡Perfecto! Es exactamente ese diálogo.
Great!!
Leonardo
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Disco Stu likes Disco music!Feliz de ser de ayudo.
(I hope I wrote that correctly)
... And they had 'The Empire Strikes Back', the fifth of the four Star Wars films. He is fucking with us numerically, isn't he! "Children, count up to ten." "Four, five, six, one, two, three, ten". No, it goes, four, five, six, one, two, three… No, it goes: four, five, six. One... Two and three have not been made." "Two and three have not been made! What should they be?" "What should they be? We do not know. All we know is that there will be a big floppy character in it that goes, squawk squawk squawk... who needs a punch up the bracket!"
negative1
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negative1well, i listened to the first half of it
sounds pretty good to me.
however, i forgot about the han shooting greedo
scene, that is in english, spliced into it..
so we will have to replace that part
with an equivalent one
later
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negative1
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negative1we'll post the 2nd and 3rd reels
for preview also.. at some point.
later
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negative1
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negative1got in contact with someone
that worked on the original spanish
version (c3po), and we should be
getting the small segment that
had 'han shot first' in spanish
to add back to the soundtrack.
later
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negative1
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negative1here's the second reel.. more latin goodness!
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http://soundcloud.com/negative1/sw-spanish-r2
excelente!
muchas gracias.
más tarde
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chuckyd777
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@ -1
this is the latin american dub i have been lookin for ages!
can you PLEASE upload these track, so we can use it for harmy 2.0
thanks in advance!
negative1
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negative1chuckyd777 said:
@ -1
this is the latin american dub i have been lookin for ages!
can you PLEASE upload these track, so we can use it for harmy 2.0
thanks in advance!
good to know..
however, we're not done with it yet!
also, it might have to be re-synched, since
it's not GOUT.
and finally, we have to replace 'han shoots greedo'
scene, because that's in english. we are hoping
to get an original from the voice actor that played
c3p0.
later
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negative1
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negative1
here is the final reel that i have for now.
the others are still being worked on..
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http://soundcloud.com/negative1/sw-spanish-r3
excelente!
muchas gracias.
más tarde
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