The battle of Yavin..

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X-wing fighter's avatar
The battle of Yavin..

ok..why didnt the empire just blow up Yavin and then blow up the moon that the rebel base was on..that could of avoided the battle right?

bkev's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

"I say we're in range. Fire now!"

ChainsawAsh's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

The way I look at it, the Death Star's superlaser only works on rocky worlds, not gas giants.  The laser dissipates when traveling through the dense atmosphere.

Hence, they can't blow up or shoot through Yavin - they have to go around it.

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

Or maybe this?

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

I believe the in-universe explanation (i.e. EU) is that there is a lag time between when the DS fires and when it has to charge up for a second shot. So it couldn't just fire two shots in a row; if it blew up the Yavin gas giant, the Rebels would have ample time to flee before it could charge up to fire on the moon base. Obviously, one of the upgrades the DSII had was the ability to fire in quicker succession.

 

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SilverWook's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

If you've ever seen 2010, you don't want to be in close orbit when a gas giant ignites. That, and the Death Star maneuvers like a garbage scow at sublight. ;)

This really needs to become a sticky or something...

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

ChainsawAsh said:

The way I look at it, the Death Star's superlaser only works on rocky worlds, not gas giants.  The laser dissipates when traveling through the dense atmosphere.

That's what has been my personal explanation for this.

TV's Frink's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

I'm fond of this explanation:

Sluggo said:

Or maybe this?

 

none's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

I'm fond of this explanation:

Sluggo said:

Or maybe this?

and this, but not so much at the beginning:

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TV's Frink said:

I'm fond of this explanation:

Sluggo said:

Or maybe this?

 

Make that two.

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TheBoost's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

If Yavin/Moon relationship is anything like Jupiter/Earth size relationship, then the planet Yavin is about 1,300 times bigger.

I'm perfectly willing to beleive that "the power to blow up a planet" means the power to blow up a rocky planet, roughly similar to Alderaan, not the power to blow up ANY planet.

I'll also buy that the DS needs to recharge. I'll buy that it's too close to the gas giant.  It all makes sense. What I won't buy is that all the characters are just too stupid to do it.

I feel that 2/3 of complaints about the SW movies are that a fan invents a rule that's not in the movie, then complains that the movie doesn't follow it.

Last edited on December 13, 2010 at 3:41 PM by TheBoost
TV's Frink's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

Not that there's anything wrong with these kinds of questions, but they always remind of the immortal words of the late Joel Robinson.

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Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax."

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

TV's Frink said:


Not that there's anything wrong with these kinds of questions, but they always remind of the immortal words of the late Joel Robinson.

http://www.kaijuhq.org/joel.jpg

Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax."
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RE: The battle of Yavin..

doubleofive said:

TV's Frink said:


Not that there's anything wrong with these kinds of questions, but they always remind of the immortal words of the late Joel Robinson.

What is Joel late for now?

*rimshot*

Last edited on December 13, 2010 at 6:23 PM by TV's Frink
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RE: The battle of Yavin..

I always went by the thought that it needed a lot of time to charge up its capacitors enough to blow away a whole planet.  Also, even if they had destroyed Yavin first, it may have still been out of effective range of destroying the moon from over there.

The novel of Star Wars mentions that the Death Star gets to about six planetary diameters distance of Alderaan at the point they fire the superlaser.  Going by the size of Earth, this would be about 50,000 miles, which is rather less than the distance from here to our moon.  In the potentially much larger orbital system of a gas giant, it seems unlikely they'd be able to fire from the far side of Yavin and get the job done.  Now it's probably safe to assume that this number was arbitrarily invented by Alan Dean Foster when he wrote the book, but the concept of effective range is valid regardless of the exact value.

For the second Death Star, not only could they recharge faster, but also it would require far less power to destroy a ship than an entire planet, enabling a much higher rate of fire at the Battle of Endor.

Last edited on December 14, 2010 at 12:21 AM by hairy_hen
X-wing fighter's avatar
RE: The battle of Yavin..

ooohhh yeah...but leia new the falcon was getting tracked down by the empire why did she still go to the HIDDEN rebel base???

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

Make the enemy come to you, and hope you find the flaw in the DS plans before they show up?

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

X-wing fighter said:

ooohhh yeah...but leia new the falcon was getting tracked down by the empire why did she still go to the HIDDEN rebel base???

 Because it was time to fight. The Death Star was the Ultimate Power in the Universe, and the Rebs had one shot to take it out.

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

thanks for the replies and answers guys

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RE: The battle of Yavin..

none said:

I'm fond of this explanation:

Sluggo said:

Or maybe this?

and this, but not so much at the beginning:

 


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Last edited on December 15, 2010 at 4:31 PM by Bocce_Linguist

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