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I am ready for the trials!I wasn't following the thread all that closely, so I was surprised it was locked down.
Even though I don't think there's much that can be done with the Laserdiscs that hasn't been done already, it would be nice if someone here actually had an XO for transferring movies not on DVD. It's an amazing player from everything I've read. Not a miracle machine, but being able to play rotted discs cleanly comes pretty close.
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is automatic for the people.Could we get this thread locked as well?
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Jedi KnightLOL. Sluggo that joke was worth a laugh, i mean if it was a joke.
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Likes Lens Flairsskyjedi2005 said:
LOL. Sluggo that joke was worth a laugh, i mean if it was a joke.
It wasn't.
Karyudo
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I am ready for the trials!OmegaMattman said:
Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of these LDs to work with myself. I'd love to get my hands on a raw, untweaked, high-quality LD-to-digital transfer of the PAL editions to toy around with ;)
Hmm... I might be able to help. Eventually....
Somewhere in my basement, I've got what's probably the best PAL LD player ever made (Pioneer LD-V4300D) and three copies of each of the 1993 PAL discs (two French and one German, I think).
The PAL versions aren't a panacea, but they're pretty good. And better than the NTSC verions in a lot of places.
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Padawan LearnerHi Karyudo!
Great to hear about this.
As far as I know in 1993 only pre-THX discs were released in PAL countries. Are you sure those contain high quality video?
I bought a Pionner CLD-2950 PAL player last week, it should arrive soon. I am planning on doing a german preservation project. However I will be using the GOUT as main video source. Only opening crawl, end titles, alien subtitles and PCM audio will be taken from the german discs.
Remember the GOUT only features the english crawl.
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<..>R2D2 said:
Hi Karyudo!
Great to hear about this.
As far as I know in 1993 only pre-THX discs were released in PAL countries. Are you sure those contain high quality video?
I think Karyudo probably meant 1995.
The PAL laserdiscs of Star Wars have several improvements over the NTSC Def Col (and the GOUT DVD) - a less aggressive application of DVNR being the major advantage.
Conversely, the video on the PAL LD of TESB (well, the French one anyway) suffers from DVNR artefacting that is worse than the GOUT DVD, although it doesn't have the split lightsabre problems. The Faces LD is probably the best source for Empire.
Never compared ROTJ.
There might be more appropriate threads in which to continue this discussion.
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Moth3r said:
Never compared ROTJ.
Judging from your transfers, Jedi has hardly any DVNR applied at all (if any). The GOUT doesn't have much applied (or is applied in a different way, more similar to the DVNR on the '97s), but it's enough to notice that something is wrong. If you go frame-by-frame, you can see where a black dirt spot will appear, and still be partly visible in the following frames. Which is funny because the process is supposed to remove those, not make them linger!
To help the analysis further, take a look at these close ups of Obi-Wan's beard -- STENDEC
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Han D. SoloOK, I think I just saw a ghost in Mike V's forum:
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I'm very interested in how you go about warping one piece of footage to map onto another. I spent a lot of time working out algorithms for this a few years ago, and was pretty happy with the results, but would really like to hear more about your approach.
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Padawan LearnerHoly mother of God!
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Child is the Father of the ManWe can't guarantee that's the same person, but his question about the algorithms does leave me.. interested.
It sure would be nice to know if Laserman was alive.
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Padawan LearnerLet's hope it's him
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delurking mode.. onHarmy said:
OK, I think I just saw a ghost in Mike V's forum:
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I'm very interested in how you go about warping one piece of footage to map onto another. I spent a lot of time working out algorithms for this a few years ago, and was pretty happy with the results, but would really like to hear more about your approach.
Glad it wasn't just me who thought that. I came to this topic immediately after seeing that on Mike's site.
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Slayer of Deaditespittrek said:
Let's hope it's him
Agreed. "Let's hope," indeed. Has anyone sent a PM or message of some sorts to this laserman on the Star Wars Legacy Forum?
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Jedi KnightLaserman said:
When I worked on Babe Pig In The City, a *lot* of scenes were shot and never used, we even built a beautifully elaborate set for the opening sequence, had the motion control camera all set up, did a few test passes and then the director changed his mind.
He decided that as it was a sequel the opening sequence was no longer required, so it ended up not being shot, even though we had spent 3 months setting the shot up and were ready to roll camera. Had he been on another part of the set that day it would have been shot anyway, and then in edit may have ended up in the film.
Pre-vis has allowed shot ratios to be reduced in some instances, but it is a staple of film making to get as much 'coverage' as possible. Films cost big bucks, so shooting some extra scenes when you already have the set, the actors and the crew in place makes a lot of sense. Pickups and reshoots cost a fortune in comparison to grabbing an extra couple of scenes when you have the chance.
Even in post a lot of CG work was created that was never used, but was wanted so they had options when going into the final edit.
This little comment on Babe 2: Pig in the City always stuck with me and when somebody said Laserman was too sick to work on the X0 project any more, I remember trying to work out who he was.
Anyway, I just read that Philip Hearnshaw has passed away after dealing with Motor Neurone disease which he was diagnosed with five years ago. Realise that I'm just jumping to conclusions here but wasn't that around the time Laserman got sick? Hearnshaw worked as 1st Assistant Director on Babe 2 as well, which would explain the involvement of him preparing the sequence detailed above.
Apologies for posting in such an old thread, just thought that if anybody could confirm this theory they'd read this post. Apologies if I'm way off and Laserman isn't Philip Hearnshaw.
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SilverWook
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I am ready for the trials!I think it's up to an individual as to how much to reveal about their private life around here. We really shouldn't pry.
If that is Laserman, I can only wish him the best. I never heard ALS called by that name before. Unfortunately, I'm very familiar with it's effects.
Moth3r
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<..>No, that's not him.
TServo2049
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This space for rentLaserman is alive, he posted on Mike Verta's forum a while back.
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The Interweb is a Series of TubesTServo2049 said:
Laserman is alive, he posted on Mike Verta's forum a while back.
"He's alive! The Laserman's alive! He's in the Old West, but he's alive!"
"And I'm shocked at you Moth3r for being off-topic, Because if people off-topic you say "stay on-topic, STAY on-topic, STAY ON-TOPIC", and we are not in the Off topic section of OT.com, now are we?" –pat man
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Has a smile 12 parsecs wideWas it ever confirmed whether it is the same Laserman? If so, does anyone know why he stopped posting here?
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I didn't know the guy, since I joined the forum about a year ago, but has anyone considered the possibility that maybe he got involved with Lucasfilm or something similar?
Like, maybe he is not allowed to continue posting here. Or maybe he got an offer from somebody/some company for his method of combining sources for a restoration?
TServo2049
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This space for rentI couldn't answer that any more than you could. He only posted there a couple times in March.
Perhaps he gave up and decided to pursue other ventures. That's a very real possibility.
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Padawan LearnerWell, even if he didn't have time for this project any more, you'd think he'd post to let everyone know he's ok, as many have been concerned about him. But I'm glad to hear he's alright, and it was certainly a cool idea to get the best possible capture of the Definitive Collection laserdisk set, and maybe one day it will get done. :)
Harmy
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Han D. SoloThe transfer itself did get done and uploaded but reportedly it still was what it was, a LD tranfer, albeit a really good one, so it would have been a nice update over the available transfers when the idea came to being, before the release of the GOUT that is.
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