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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoI've had conversations about Secret of NIMH with Green Penguino and Ziggy in my introduction thread, so I know there are at LEAST two secret of NIMH fans on this forum.
Here, we can talk about both the movie AND its horrible sequel.
To start off, I'd like to point out similarities between The Secret of NIMH and Star Wars:
The Originals...
both have a scene involving using telekinesis to move something big out of a swamp.
both have comic relief characters.
both have one sequence where the female lead isn't wearing enough clothing.
Their Follow-Ups...
both use low-quality animation/effects.
both have an annoying "comic relief" character. (I've already made several cracks at this on this forum)
both involve a whiny kid being the "chosen one" who eventually fulfills his destiny. (The only difference is that Anakin actually DID do something to fulfill his destiny; all Timmy did was... wait... what DID Timmy do?)
Well, I guess that's it with the comparisons.

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Six Nine with the AfroI loved the book Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH and read it several times growing up. I think I've seen The Secret of NIMH only once. Apart from enjoying it (but not as much as the book) the only thing I remember was being really annoyed that they changed the name to Brisby!
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoWell, you have Wham-o Inc. to blame for that. When I first saw the movie, I thought Brisby was a little bit hard to pronounce. 'Course, now, I'm used to it. I've read the entire Rats of NIMH trilogy shortly after seeing the movie and direct-to-video sequel. I think Racso and the Rats of NIMH is my favorite of the books, particularly because Mrs. Frisby got more screen time in it than Mrs. Brisby did in Timmy to the Rescue. Why couldn't they have made Secret of NIMH 2 based around that?

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Six Nine with the AfroI didn't know there was a trilogy. Or even a second one. I might have to watch the movie again though, after all this promotion ;)
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I hadn't realized that there were other films either, so I'd be curious to see them, even if they are terrible. I'm a fan of the original film (and the book) too. :)
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Summer of 69erI saw The Secret of NIMH once, back in seventh grade, and didn't like it because it deviated too much from the book, which I really liked.

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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoDoubleKO said:
I didn't know there was a trilogy. Or even a second one.
There are two movies and three books. The second book is called Racso and the Rats of NIMH, and the third book is called RT, Margaret, and the Rats of NIMH. You should check them out of the library when you get the chance. The only thing I don't like is that they keep changing the main characters in each book. Quit passing the stupid torch already! (Hmm... Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH, Racso and the Rats of NIMH, RT Margaret and the Rats of NIMH... Indiana Jones and the Rats of NIMH?)
Chewtobacca said:
I hadn't realized that there were other films either, so I'd be curious to see them, even if they are terrible. I'm a fan of the original film (and the book) too. :)
Technically, it's sequel isn't so much a film, as it is a telecine. Believe me, one view is enough.
DuracellEnergizer said:
I saw The Secret of NIMH once, back in seventh grade, and didn't like it because it deviated too much from the book, which I really liked.
I felt the same way about the new Chronicles of Narnia movies, but in the end it turned out that I liked them. Maybe you'll like Secret of NIMH, too.

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Some of the best animation in a movie, ever.
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CP3S said:
You will not. None of us will, except for a very old and dying Ziggy Stardust who will watch it through teary eyes as he remembers us all.
pittrek said:
I seriously hope I will live enough to see the original Star Wars trilogy in this quality
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoZiggy Stardust said:
Some of the best animation in a movie, ever.
I love the gritty style of the animation! Rough-lookin' pencil lines, beautiful matte-painting backgrounds... It's all awesome! If only more animation today was like that...

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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTDon Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget. He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time. Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay. Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant. Yep, yep, yep!
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
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Pennsylvania Jones said: Believe me, one view is enough.
I can well believe it. :)
Has anyone seen the BD of The Secret of Nimh yet?
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoChewtobacca said:
Pennsylvania Jones said: Believe me, one view is enough.
I can well believe it. :)
Has anyone seen the BD of The Secret of Nimh yet?
Well, the first time I saw the film was on Netflix Instant Watch in HD, though I have no doubt that the Blu-Ray is much better quality. Too bad about that dirtiness. It seems that a Blu-Ray movie made from a good transfer is pretty hard to find.

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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-Weirdodarth_ender said:
Don Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget. He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time. Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay. Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant. Yep, yep, yep!
Of those, I've seen American Tail (both Bluth Theatrical films and both direct-to-video sequels), Anastasia (barely remember it, though, other than the dismembered bad guy), Land Before Time (not sure how many of them I've seen, but there were a lot of them), and Titan AE (Something to pass the time along). I don't mind the American Tale direct-to-video movies as much as I do Timmy to the Rescue. That's because with American Tail, you're EXPECTING it to be a musical. The movies are SUPPOSED to be about Fievel. Secret of NIMH is NOT supposed to be a musical, nor is it about a bratty Timothy. The songs in both definitely could've been better, though.

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Pennsylvania Jones totally NIMHs skyjedi.
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CP3S said:
You will not. None of us will, except for a very old and dying Ziggy Stardust who will watch it through teary eyes as he remembers us all.
pittrek said:
I seriously hope I will live enough to see the original Star Wars trilogy in this quality
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoZiggy Stardust said:
Pennsylvania Jones totally NIMHs skyjedi.
Meaning?

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Well, skyjedi posts about how he hates the prequels. You post how you hate Secret of NIMH 2. (and I don't blame you on that one)
It was just a playful joke.
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CP3S said:
You will not. None of us will, except for a very old and dying Ziggy Stardust who will watch it through teary eyes as he remembers us all.
pittrek said:
I seriously hope I will live enough to see the original Star Wars trilogy in this quality
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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTPennsylvania Jones said:
darth_ender said:
Don Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget. He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time. Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay. Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant. Yep, yep, yep!
Of those, I've seen American Tail (both Bluth films and both direct-to-video sequels), Anastasia (barely remember it, though, other than the dismembered bad guy), Land Before Time (not sure how many of them I've seen, but there were a lot of them), and Titan AE (Something to pass the time along). I don't mind the American Tale direct-to-video movies as much as I do Timmy to the Rescue. That's because with American Tail, you're EXPECTING it to be a musical. The movies are SUPPOSED to be about Fievel. Secret of NIMH is NOT supposed to be a musical, nor is it about a bratty Timothy. The songs in both definitely could've been better, though.
FYI Bluth did not take part in any sequel to any of these series. He only did the first film establishing a legacy that others could make cheesy and/or crappy sequels to.
I did read Mrs. Frisby, followed by Racso, by the way, and was impressed with the first book, and surprisingly equally enjoyed the second, though written by a different author many years after the first. The successor managed to capture both the style and the characters in my opinion. Of course that had to be at least 15 years ago for me, but still...
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
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Six Nine with the AfroMrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH always makes me think of Condorman... It was probably my favourite movie when NIMH was my favourite book.
And because they both have animals in the name, my favourite video game must have been Donkey Kong, to use established forum logic.
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-Weirdodarth_ender said:
Pennsylvania Jones said:
darth_ender said:
Don Bluth was the only competition to Disney for some time, and he did it on a fraction of the budget. He really was brilliant, and his other three great successes in my mind were An American Tail, Anastasia, and Land Before Time. Not much of a fan of All Dogs Go to Heaven, and Titan AE was only okay. Still, his style, grit, and depth far exceeds the superficiality of most Disney films. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy many Disney movies, but I really find Bluth brilliant. Yep, yep, yep!
Of those, I've seen American Tail (both Bluth films and both direct-to-video sequels), Anastasia (barely remember it, though, other than the dismembered bad guy), Land Before Time (not sure how many of them I've seen, but there were a lot of them), and Titan AE (Something to pass the time along). I don't mind the American Tale direct-to-video movies as much as I do Timmy to the Rescue. That's because with American Tail, you're EXPECTING it to be a musical. The movies are SUPPOSED to be about Fievel. Secret of NIMH is NOT supposed to be a musical, nor is it about a bratty Timothy. The songs in both definitely could've been better, though.
FYI Bluth did not take part in any sequel to any of these series. He only did the first film establishing a legacy that others could make cheesy and/or crappy sequels to.
I did read Mrs. Frisby, followed by Racso, by the way, and was impressed with the first book, and surprisingly equally enjoyed the second, though written by a different author many years after the first. The successor managed to capture both the style and the characters in my opinion. Of course that had to be at least 15 years ago for me, but still...
He did Fievel Goes West. It was MGM's idea to do those dumb sequels.
I suppose you haven't read RT, Margaret, and the Rats of NIMH yet?

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"darth endeor was a meanyhead" - FatherSkywalker, et al--QFTI thought for some reason that he did not do Feivel Goes West. And no, I've not read RT, Margaret, and the Rest of the Gang. Don't know if and when I'll ever get around to it. Probably when my kids are old enough for me to read it to them, but that's a wat off yet.
The ROTJ collaborative thread is a wealth of ideas, both on how to edit Return of the Jedi, as well as how to collaborate in an edit. Emanswfan has taken leadership of the project.
Password for all ROTJ-related clips: ROTJ
A very rough edit of how the Battle of Endor could go
A very rough idea of how ROTJ could end
Rough edit based on the final script with some deviation:
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-WeirdoWell, this is interesting. I go to IMDB and look up the credits for Fievel Goes West, and I couldn't find Don Bluth's name anywhere. I could've sworn he did this one...
In any case, Fievel Goes West was still a theatrical sequel, and, IMO, is the best Bluth sequel ever made. Now, if only Secret of NIMH got the same treatment. (Just saying...)

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Child is the Father of the ManIf I had to guess, I would say you just saw either the first or second movie for the first time. The '90s were great for so-bad-it's-good straight to video gold.
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-Weirdobkev said:
If I had to guess, I would say you just saw either the first or second movie for the first time. The '90s were great for so-bad-it's-good straight to video gold.
I've only ever seen Timmy to the Rescue once, and I have no intention of watching it again. The original, I've seen regularly since I first watched it. That was months ago. Heck, I'm even editing videos using clips from Secret of NIMH! Unless you're talking about American Tail, which I remember from WAAAAAAY back into my childhood. Come to think of it, I do remember in my childhood watching Secret of NIMH. I remembered illness being involved (perhaps my own?) and that one shot of Mr. Ages slamming the door in Mrs. Brisby's face. In French.

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Child is the Father of the ManIn French? Oh-la-la, classy guy over here.
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Video Editor, Obsessive Fan, and Semi-Weirdobkev said:
In French? Oh-la-la, classy guy over here.
Yes, I remember it vividly...
Mrs. Brisby said:
Merci-
*SLAM!!!*
Mrs. Brisby said:
Bocu.
I was obsessed with French at the time, because of two movies: Bon Voyage, Charlie Brown and Herbie goes to Monte Carlo. I'll bet I have to start a Charlie Brown thread and a Herbie thread.

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