Some of the dollar stores here still have TPM stuff they can't give away.

Somewhere there must be a landfill to rival that one full of Atari  2600 E.T. cartridges!

Would Jar Jar Binks bandages still be good to use now?

bkev said:

I like TPM. Is it a good movie? No, but it's entertaining. I watch it the same way I would watch the original TMNT movie: with no purpose other than nostalgic entertainment.

You are too young for nostalgia.

The phantom menace was George Lucas.  He decides some time in the early nineties to go back and re-invent star wars with the bad special editions and a newly written prequel story that had very little to do with anything written prior to then.

The main problem is that TPM is a surrealist film disguised as a mainstream blockbuster film.

generalfrevious said:

The main problem is that TPM is a movie disguised as a  Star Wars film.

Fixed.

No really. I think TPM is a surrealist film in the vein as Luis Bunel. But the problem is that in a science fiction movie, you need exposition to what is going on and how that universe works in order for the film to succeed. TPM does not explain and is governed by no logic- hence a surrealist film.

Lucas said Jar Jar was the key to the success of the film,lol.

In that The Beginning documentary.

My favorite part. 

"you can destroy these things it is possible.  I made more American graffiti and it made ten cents" George Lucas

Jar Jar failed, therefore the film failed. For once GL was right.

Dear lord, KIWF.

You might like my version of Jar Jar better.  Subtitles make all the difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOZdY2p4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIkduVH6QI

none said:

TV's Frink wrote: You might like my version of Jar Jar better.  Subtitles make all the difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGOZdY2p4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIkduVH6QI

If you use one of the foreign language versions for Jar-Jar, it'll make the subtitles easier to read.  I'm hearing / reading different englishes, mind can't focus on either, easily.

First time I've heard someone mention that, actually.  It just means you can watch the edit more than once and get more out of it ;-)

I'll admit, I saw TPM 5 times in theaters. I was young, and it was Star Wars that I didn't have memorized.

I remember almost cheering the first time I saw it when Qui-Gon said "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." I was hoping everyone was going to be exasperated with him, however, that didn't last long.

doubleofive said:

I remember almost cheering the first time I saw it when Qui-Gon said "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." I was hoping everyone was going to be exasperated with him, however, that didn't last long.

The shame is that should have been a perfect line to shut Jar Jar down for the rest of the movie.  Instead he just got worse.

The thing is, in parts TPM can still feel like an adventure movie, which cannot be said for II and III.

Then again, there was a fight between Anakin and baby Greedo.

Oh dear oh dear.

Back to the Jar Jar subtitles, there are fanedits out there that do subtitles to try and make him a more serious or likable character...with mixed results IIRC.  One of the problems is coming up with replacement dialogue that doesn't sound obvious - foreign language tracks and reversed tracks don't sound good IMO.

captainsolo said:

Then again, there was a fight between Anakin and baby Greedo.

Oh dear oh dear.

Pretty sure that was a deleted scene.

The big problem with all redubs are the other elements in the soundmix.

The music, the sound effects, that sort of thing.

If George won't release the OOT to the public I doubt if he would release every single sound element.

It would be a the second coolest thing he ever did if he released a series of archives of Star Wars disassembled so you could put the whole saga back together your own way (like a grown up version of the soundboards on SW.com).

It would be a great way of teaching people about editing and composing a shot from disparate elements.

Bingowings said:

The big problem with all redubs are the other elements in the soundmix.

The music, the sound effects, that sort of thing.

This is very true.  There is a ton of dialogue echo in the R-L and rear R-L channels.  It's a pain in the ass to work with.