The Future Legacy of Star Wars Films

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Mrebo's avatar
The Future Legacy of Star Wars Films

Are most big movies now following this formula? I am concerned that Star Wars 7 - however well-written, acted, directed - will be bottled up in such a manner and feel uninspired, however "really good" it may be. Some of Disney's and other companies' recent efforts heighten this concern.

Would or could a new Star Wars movie change cinema the way it is said to have done in '77? Or is cinema no longer susceptible to such alterations of course?

I'm not wanting a crazy avant-garde Star Wars, but could it show enough heart to stand out as something more than 'another (really good) Star Wars movie'?

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DuracellEnergizer's avatar
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Cinema is susceptible to grand changes. The problem is that today people with vision have no power, and vice-versa.

Last edited on July 22, 2013 at 7:55 AM by DuracellEnergizer

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No matter how many bad films the SW franchise will have, we can all hope that the OT will endure in spite of the PT and/or ST. 

Plus, how many westerns or samurai films dwell on boring political issues?

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Heilemann's avatar
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That article lacks any kind of historical insight or dramaturgical understanding. Storytelling *is* 'formulaic', and always has been.

Last edited on July 23, 2013 at 6:11 PM by Heilemann

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Mrebo's avatar
RE: The Future Legacy of Star Wars Films

Heilemann said:

That article lacks any kind of historical insight or dramaturgical understanding. Storytelling *is* 'formulaic', and always has been.

You have a point. And I'm skeptical of the 'here are two examples from movie X so obv the entire movie followed a strict formula.' Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I mean, we'd expect a couple of similarities with any given story-telling model.

But I am still concerned about a perfectly good script being handed up to the executives who fancy themselves experts because they studied a certain easy-to-digest formula (like the one at the link) and decide to impose that model to constrain the story within that single orthodoxy in order to 'make it better.'

Whether Moliere, Shakespeare, Spielberg, or Abrams...there are obvious good ways of telling a story that will be followed. But I think there is a danger (perhaps proven by recent movies) of adhering to certain models too closely.

Do you think that is a problem with contemporary cinema or are movies as good/bad as they've always been? I tend to agree with DuracellEnergizer - even beyond movies, I don't know if there is as much opportunity for people to breach existing fields.

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TMBTM's avatar
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At this point I don't even want a new Star Wars that would change again the face of cinema, I just want a good movie with interesting characters, iconic scenes and a bit of heart. Plus, SW movies are already a bit codified: a certain lenght, a certain type of characters, of music, the wipe transitions etc... I don't see the sequel trilogy being a revolution of the cinematic experience nor even a revolution in the genre.

I just want a new movie to enjoy and talk about positively, that makes me want to see more of them instead of worrying about what they could mess with in the future.

 

That said... if there is ONE scene with a bad guy being caught on purpose and  interrogated inside a glass room I swear I'm leaving the theater, haha.

Heilemann's avatar
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At the end of the day, the more expensive the movie, the bigger the risk. We can complain about wanting more inventive movies, or different experiences all we want. But flip it around and look at movies like products, it only makes sense for the studios to do their utmost to ensure their investments. In most other industries, we applaud that. That's what business is. And blockbusters are business, not art.

That said, we all want to be surprised and delighted when we watch a film; but the only thing that matters in the overall scheme of things is the bottom line. When that falters, change will come. See also Old Hollywood.

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