Nice avatar, new guy!

I hope they're preserving a proper version of the news. Saw this on the news earlier in the evening.

Also, welcome new guy! Stick around.

I don't think we have anything to worry about. The LOC would no sooner accept an SE print than they would a colorized movie. ;)

Sluggo said:

Nice avatar, new guy!

Thanks much! It's Jeremy Bulloch in the ESB Fett suit that the guys over at The Dented Helmet made for him. It's really a work of art.

haljordan28 said:

Speaking of Jeremy Bulloch  I was watching the special editions  over the weelkend on spike  and the new vpice   for boba sounds soooo stupid.  and another example og how much lucas hates these films and  doers not care how much he keeps ruining them.  I cant believe  they added a scene to empire  that was  pretty much cut and pasted  out of return of the jedi.  you can even see commander from jedi standing there.

Please, make it stop. It's everywhere...

haljordan28 said:

He has changed so much. its like in the 70s  he was elvis or ricky nelson and now he is justine timberlake or  or 50 cent. THe man has become worthless.

Who is Justine?  Never heard of her before!!

Yes, when I read that quote, it made me forget to welcome you.

Well, welcome Tyrphanax. Enjoy the show.

I hope they remembered to check it was the original.

Flashforward 70 years: "Lucas may have destroyed all prints of the originals, but we still have this! Empire Strikes Back Special Edition!...Fuck..."

zombie84 said:

I hope they remembered to check it was the original.

Flashforward 70 years: "Lucas may have destroyed all prints of the originals, but we still have this! Empire Strikes Back Special Edition!...Fuck..."

    Sounds like Jon Stewart...

This occurred to me: I assume this is a 35mm print of the 1980 original. Right? Right. Okay, so--where did it come from?

Was it one of the existing ones they had laying around? If so, it would pre-date the 1990s, and that means it's printed on the older triacetate stocks and not newer polyester stocks. That means by the time ESB goes public domain in like sixty or seventy years and they open up that vault to use a fucking release print as the base for a new negative because the original negative disintegrated thirty years prior, they will probably find a nice pile of film that turned red decades ago, even with temperature controls.

If it's not a vintage print but a newly printed one...what the hell did they print it from? The 1985 interpositives? I imagine the IPs themselves must be pretty rough looking by now. Even the 1993 DE, with its colour-corrected telecine, you can see how pink its turning and how faded the colours are, and its pretty dirty and grainy too.

Gah. Its incredible how badly preserved these films are. Utterly incredible.

TheBoost said:

Ricky Nelson?!!?

Whats wrong with Ricky Nelson. I'm a fan.

Doesn't the LOC already have prints of the trilogy?

Nope, just SW, and now Empire.

Thanks for the warm welcomes, folks.

Don't worry about the bad post, I've been lurking here long enough now to get a feel for who to take seriously.

So when do we raid the LOC for these prints? =P I know the first thing I thought was "I wonder which version they got..." Can we authenticate which version they have yet at all? I bet Lucas has a pretty, cleaned-up, untouched version of all the films that he keeps all to himself.

It must be the original 1980 workprint version.

The clip definitely looks like it's from a VHS but the colours definitely are not the 2004 SE. So that leaves us exactly nowhere in finding out which version was archieved; people here seem to assume that it is the original but I wouldn't be so sure about that. They asked Fox for a print, Fox gave it to them, they archieved it. Now, you may have noticed that ever since the 2000 VHS and LD release the butchered versions were never marketed as Special Editions, so there's no reason to assume the situation is different with film prints.

For our cause it would actually be better if it was the SE, because that way we could point out how Lucas is trying to change history. If it is the original, it weakens the whole film-preservation part of our arguments.