TRIFORCE89 said:

How come you don't keep your stuff? It should be like... of historical importance. lol

Because I've learned.

Always throw the lessons when you've finished with these my friend, otherwise you'll stick to these all your life and you'll miss the point where it was meant to lead you. ;)

I pulled the music from another source on the Internet.   I came here to pay respect to the guy that pulled this together as it is terrific.   So bravo to ABC or whatever his name now is.    

Then I read through this thread and what seems like a fun project ends ... oddly.  pm this pm that.   Then a google search brings up posts that this was meant to be a project to be distributed only within some sort of secret circle of friends and certain posters.  So now, there are philosophical posts about not keeping 'stuff' at a thread that is about stuff?  Whatever.  I may be new to this forum but I'm not new to forums.  

Hi Junkanoo

The "stuff" TRIFORCE was referring to were my older attempts of improving the sound of the ESB set. There have been 4 or 5 before the "Audiophile Edition" (3CDs-double set), and the definitive "Imperial Audiophile Edition" (5CDs+1DVD-triple set). The only ones that I will keep for myself are these two (the AE for "historical importance"...). Hope it clears it all.

As for the rest of your post, I admit I'm not used to forums and then hardly understand when it seems there's quite a bunch of people who are waiting for your project to be released but still nobody speaks or wants to manifest interest. Thus, misunderstandings take birth like on tehparadox where they were watching the project from there and people said "hey! He's gonna share it in private!...Blahblah"... when I just warned it would be if nobody cared, indeed.

All depended in the interest shown in here. I've made those threads for this at OT.com, no? So, what's fair?

The project(s) have been announced long enough to let people the time to say they were interested, to share thoughts on what has been provided as samples... Then a daily checking at OT.com with not the least comment for months when you're working on such project (AE thread) and made everything to explain and to compare the improvements isn't encouraging at all.

... But I've dealed with my frustration with the help of some people and in the end:

The AE has been released (edit: and let's be fair, it has had a lot of feedbacks, so I'm glad), the IAE has been entirely uploaded especially thanks to the encouragement and the warm feelings of Steb74 by pm (I could have kept this definitive fix just for myself as it's a headache to upload from my computer), so all ends well and I wish you all the luck to find the IAE in it's entirety.

Now I'm not a SW fan especially and if the community wants to preserve the IAE they're most welcome. Just forget the author, he's not a long term resident here and not necessarily a nice guy. ;)

Thanks a lot for your words.

ABC/Legu, your perspective on the matter makes a lot more sense after this explanation. I think, though, that no one comments on threads while you work on projects because no one has anything to say. It's not that we don't love your work (WE LOVE YOUR WORK!), but what is there to say? Although we can recognize the superior quality of your final product, most of us don't have the know how to say much other than "Well this sounds like it will be good". It's not like Adywan's ridiculously long threads where people get into arguments over and over - Instead, we just wait.

Just listened to it again. So, saying great work again.

Ok... Sorry mods, I think the OP for this project needs and worths to be clearly readable... I mean it's still a Star Wars Preservation forum, no?

Leguman time !

A B C said:

 

This project is an updgrade on many points of the previous "Audiophile Edition". It is my definitive set & fix.

 

 

© Copyrighted material: You must own the Empire Strikes Back original motion picture soundtrack Special Edition if you mean to keep for yourselves a copy of the entire project presented here. If you own any other releases of this score, then you may select and keep for yourselves the material in common from the actual set.

 

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK restored score

• Composer / Conductor: John Williams
• Performer: the London Symphony Orchestra
• Project: multiple sources remixing, restoration and remastering.
• Sources: 1980-1985 RSO/PolyGram (LPs & CD), 1993 Arista Anthology, 1997 RCA Special Edition, 1983 NPR Radio Drama.
• Set: 2CD (complete cues archive) + 2CD (edited score) + 1 CD (original album reconstructed and completed) + art covers, special booklet with liner notes and documentation, inside arts.
• Format: Lossless Flac audio

 

 

 

Related projects:

 

Dark_Jedi & ABC's *IMPERIAL EDITION* DVD - The restored score against the picture (B&W GOUT sourced restoration), featuring the completed original score as written for the 1980 final cut.

 

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK *AUDIOPHILE EDITION* (version 1) - Check for a more complete presentation.

 

 

A B C said:

 

- Check here the previous remixing/editing details (version 1)-

 

...What's new since the 1st "AE":

• EQ's: mostly 1993 sessions mixes tracks, using a 20Khz parametric equalizer to manage the 20Khz tone that is particular to these. Overall, the CD3 from the AE has been the main reference for new EQs. A lot of tracks from it then replace the previous CD1 & 2 ones.
• Pitch corrections: 5M4/6M1; 6M3; 7M3; 9M4 + 1M2 Alt this one checked against the 1980 film mix)
• Balance adjustment on a few tracks
• New source occasionnaly used for enhancement: the NPR Radio Drama for 6M3; 10M1
• Redone tracks: 6M2 (uses the film mix instead of the SE remix); 9M4, 1M2 Alt.
• Editing: checked and corrected when needed against J Williams piano sketches manuscript (scoring sheets).
• Other improvements: notably 8M2, bringing back the background details (xylophone(?) harmonics) from the sessions mix during Luke's vision passage.

 

+ A few other details.

 

A B C said:

SET 1: The Complete Cue List Archive Collection

 

Disc 1

01. 1M1-1M2 Main Title - The Imperial Probe (original)
02. 1M3/2M1 Luke's Escape
03. 2M2 Ben's Instructions
04. 2M3 Luke's Rescue
05. 2M4 The Probe Scanner
06. 3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
      3M2 Leia's Instructions
07. 3M3 The Snow Battle
08. 3M4/4M1 Luke's First Crash
09. 4M2 The Rebels Escape Again
10. 4M3 The Asteroid Field
11. 5M1 Crash Landing
12. 5M2 Yoda Appears
13. 5M3 Yoda's Entrance
14. 5M4/6M1 Solo And The Princess
15. 6M2 Yoda's Teaching
16. 6M3 This Is Not A Cave
17. 6M4 Training A Jedi
18. 6M5/7M1 The Magic Tree
19. 7M2 Attack Position
20. 7M3 Yoda Raises The Ship
21. 7M4/8M1 Vader's Command


Disc 2

01. 8M2 City In The Clouds
02. 8M3 Lando's Palace
03. 9M1 Luke To The Rescue
04. 9M2 Vader Shows Up
05. 9M3 Putting ThreePio Together
06. 9M4 Trouble In Prison
07. 9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze (original)
08. 10M2 Luke Pursues The Captives
09. 10M3 Chewie Chokes Lando
10. 11M1 Through The Window
11. 12M1 Losing A Hand
12. 12M2 To Hyper-Space
13. 12M3 Finale
    12M4 End Credits

CONCERT VERSIONS:
 
14. Darth Vader's Theme
15. Yoda's Theme

BONUS MATERIAL:

16. Fox Fanfare (Empire sessions recording)
17. 1M1-1M2 Main Title / The Imperial Probe (Alt inserts)
18. 12M2+2M3 Snowspeeder (film edit)
19. 4M3 The Asteroid Field (film cut)
20. 9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze (Alt insert version)
21. 7M3+12M3 Finale (film edit)
      12M4 End Credits (Alt March Insert film version)

A B C said:

SET 2 - The Restored Original Score & Suites As Written For The Film (for no confusion: is not the IE DVD music track - tracks here are uncut ... See the SE ? You've got the idea then)

DISC 1

1. Main Title / Ice Planet:

   1M1 Main Title
   1M2 The Imperial Probe

2. Heroics Of Luke And Han:

   1M3/2M1 Luke's Escape
   2M2 Ben's Instructions
   2M3 Luke's Rescue

3. Aboard The Executor:

   2M4 The Probe Scanner

4. The Battle Of Hoth:

   3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
   3M2 Leia's Instructions
   3M3 The Snow Battle
   3M4/4M1 Luke's First Crash
   4M2 The Rebels Escape Again

5. The Asteroid Field:

   4M3 The Asteroid Field

6. Swamps Of Dagobah:

   5M1 Crash Landing

7. Luke's Nocturnal Visitor:

   5M2 Yoda Appears
   5M3 Yoda's Entrance
  
8. Han And The Princess / Vader And The Emperor:

   5M4/6M1 Solo And The Princess

9. Jedi Master Revealed / Mynock Cave:

   6M2 Yoda's Teaching
   6M3 This Is Not A Cave

10. The Dark Side Of The Force:

   6M4 Training A Jedi
   6M5/7M1 The Magic Tree

11. Attack Position:

   7M2 Attack Position

12. Yoda And The Force:

   7M3 Yoda Raises The Ship



DISC 2:

01. Darth Vader's Command:

   7M4/8M1 Vadar's Command

02. The City In The Clouds:
  
   8M2 City In The Clouds

03. Lando's Palace / Luke's Promise:

   8M3 Lando's Palace

04. Leia's Worries:

   9M1 Luke To The Rescue

05. Betrayal At Bespin:

   9M2 Vader Shows Up

06. Captives:

   9M3 Putting ThreePio Together

07. Deal With Darth Vader:

   9M4 Trouble In Prison

08. Darth Vader's Trap:
  
   9M6/10M1 Carbon Freeze
   10M2 Luke Pursues The Captives
   10M3 Chewie Chokes Lando

09. The Duel:

   11M1 Through The Window

10. Revelation / Escape From Bespin:

   12M1 Losing A Hand
   12M2 To Hyper-Space

11. The Rebel Fleet / End Titles:

   12M3 Finale
   12M4 End Credits

12. The Imperial March

13. Yoda's Theme

A B C said:

SET 3: The RSO album reconstructed & completed (fixed). (78:10)

 

1. Main Title / Ice Planet / The Wampa's Lair
2. Snowspeeders
3. The Imperial March 
4. The Battle In The Snow
5. Luke First Crash 
6. The Rebel Escape  (alternate mix)
7. The Asteroid Field 
8. Nocturnal Visitor

9. Yoda's Theme
10. Han And The Princess / Vader And The Emperor
11. Jedi Master Revealed / Mynock Cave
12. Training A Jedi / The Magic Tree 
13. Yoda And The Force
14. The City In The Clouds 
15. Lando's Palace/Luke's Promise 
16. Departure Of Boba Fett 
17. The Duel
18. Hyperspace 
19. The Rebel Fleet/End Title (Album Version)

... And FYI the whole remastering / remixing detail:

(Note: there are many balance adjustments throughout the cues that are not detailed here).

 
1m1 MAIN TITLE  1'32"
· (START - 1'32'') RSO PolyGram CD - speed/pitch corrected


1m2 THE IMPERIAL PROBE  6'41"
· (1’31'' - 2’29'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (2’29'' - 2’45'') RCA Special Edition - missing segment
· (2’45'' - 2’54'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology (first 3sec from SE)
· (2’54'' - 3’45'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (3’45'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology


1m3/2m1 LUKE'S ESCAPE  3'37"
· RCA Special Edition (Track)
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology clean ending
· RSO LP Layers:
(Sections)
· (0’00'' - 0’10'')
· (1’21'' - 1’40'')
· (1’48'' - 1’53'')
· (2’59'' - 3’24'')
(Percussions, Horns)
· At: 0'47''; 0'56''; 1'01'';
1'14''; 1'17''; 1'20'';
1'21''; 1'55''; 1'57'';
2'02''


2m2 BEN'S INSTRUCTION  3'32"
· RCA Special Edition


2m3 LUKE'S RESCUE  1'49"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· RSO LP layer


2m4 THE PROBE SCANNER  3'10"
· RCA Special Edition


3m1 DRAWING THE BATTLE LINES  2'06"
· (START - 2'01'') RCA Special Edition
+ ARISTA/FOX Anthology layer for general sonority
· (2’01'' - 2'40'') RCA Special Edition
3m2 LEIA'S INSTRUCTIONS  2'00"
· (2’40'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology


3m3 THE SNOW BATTLE  3'50"
· RSO PolyGram CD
  Restored cut at 2’28''


3m4/4m1 LUKE'S FIRST CRASH  4'15"
· (START - 0’58'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
  + RSO LP layer (0'05'' to 0'31'')
· (0’58'' - 4’00'') RSO LP
· (4'00'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology


4m2 THE REBELS ESCAPE AGAIN  3'06"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology (film mix) slightly resynchronized
· RSO LP from 2'05'' to 2'07'' (missing bit)
· RSO LP layer


4m3 THE ASTEROID FIELD  4'14"
· RSO PolyGram CD


5m1 CRASH LANDING  3'38"
· (START - 2'40'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'40'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology
  Restored cut at 2'40''


5m2 YODA APPEARS  1'32"
· RCA Special Edition


5m3 YODA'S ENTRANCE  2'31"
· (START - 1’37'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (1’37'' - 1’47'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology - missing bit
· (1’47'' - END) RSO PolyGram CD


5m4/6m1 SOLO AND THE PRINCESS  3'28"
· (START - 1'31'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (1’31'' - END) RSO PolyGram CD
  Dropout removal on 2 sec at 1’19'' with the SE
  Pitch/speed Corrected track


6m2 YODA'S TEACHING  2'11"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology (Film Mix)
· RSO LP Layer
· RCA Special Edition ending


6m3 THIS IS NOT A CAVE  3'35"
· (START - 0'36'') RCA Special Edition
· (0'36'' - 1'00'') NPR Radio Drama
· (1'00'' - 1'10'') RCA Special Edition
· (1'10'' - 1’48'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (1’48'' - 1'56'') RCA Special Edition - missing bit
· (1'56'' - 3'09'') RSO PolyGram CD
· (3'09'' - 3'15'') RCA Special Edition - missing bit
· (3'15'' - END) RSO PolyGram CD
  "Buzz" removal at 2'02'' with the SE
  Pitch/speed corrected RSO parts


6m4 TRAINING A JEDI  1'41"
· (START - 0'44'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (0'44'' - END) RCA Special Edition


6m5/7m1 THE MAGIC TREE  3'35"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· RSO LP layer


7m2 ATTACK POSITION  3'07"
· (START - 0'52'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0'52'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology
  Three electrical noises removed with the SE


7m3 YODA RAISES THE SHIP  4'05"
· RSO PolyGram CD
  Pitch & Speed Corrected track


7m4/8m1 VADER'S COMMAND  1'17"
· (START – 0’26'') RCA Special Edition
· (0’26'' – END) RCA Special Edition


8m2 CITY IN THE CLOUDS  4'47"
· (START – 0’09'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology + RSO LP Layer
· (0’09'' – 0’35'') RSO LP
· (0’35'' – 1’26'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0’34'' – 2’06'') RSO LP layers
· (1’26'' – 2’29'') RCA Special Edition + ARISTA/FOX Anthology layer
· (2’29'' – 3’40'') RSO LP
· (3’40'' – END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology


8m3 LANDO'S PALACE  3'54"
· (START - 1’21'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology + RSO LP layer
· (1’21'' - 2’24'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology + RSO LP layer
· (2’24'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology + RSO LP layer


9m1 LUKE TO THE RESCUE  1'03"
· (0’00” - 0'14'') RCA Special Edition
· (0’14'' - END) RCA Special Edition


9m2 VADER SHOWS UP  1'45"
· (0’00” - 0'40'') RCA Special Edition
· (0’40'' - END) RCA Special Edition


9m3  PUTTING THREEPIO TOGETHER  1'03"
· RCA Special Edition


9m4 TROUBLE IN PRISON  2'35"
· (START – 2'07'') RCA Special Edition
· (2'07'' – END) RCA Special Edition
  Pitch/Speed corrected track


9m6/10m1 CARBON FREEZE  4'17"
· (START - 0'23'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0'23'' - 1'16'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (1'16'' - 1'34'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (1'34'' - 2'38'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'38'' - 3'35'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (3'35'' - 3'43'') NPR Radio Drama missing note
· (3'39'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology


10m2 LUKE PURSUES THE CAPTIVES  3'21"
· (START - 0'35'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0'35'' - 1'59'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (1'59'' - 2'18'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'18'' - 2'42'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'42'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology
  electrical noise removal at 2'44'' on 2 sec.


10m3 CHEWIE CHOKES LANDO  3'41"
· (0'00'' - 0'06'') RCA Special Edition
· (0'06'' - 2'36'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'36'' - 3'37'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· RSO LP layers:
· (0’15'' - 1’00'')
· (1’16'' - 3’26'')
  Double cut restoration using both SE and Anthology
  from 2'36'' to 2'40''.


11m1 THROUGH THE WINDOW  4'14"
· (START - 0'27'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0'27'' - 1'33'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (1'33'' - 2'49'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (2'49” - 4'00'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (2'49” - END) RCA Special Edition - End violins
· Speed/pitch corrected RSO track


11m2/12m1 LOSING A HAND  5'23"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology


12m2 TO HYPERSPACE  4'06"
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· RSO LP layer


12m3 FINALE  2'00"
· (START - 1'47'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (1'47'' - 1'57'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
+ The first missing harp notes added from the Anthology


12m4 END CREDITS  4'26"
· (1'57'' - 2'06'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (2'06'' - 3'42'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (3'42'' - 3'51'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (3'51'' - 4'28'') RSO POLYGRAM CD - from the "Imperial March" track
· (4'28'' - 4'37'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology - from the "Film Version" bonus track
· (4'37'' - 5'47'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (5'47'' - END) RSO POLYGRAM CD
  Saturation and volume corrections on many segments and parts
  "tape crash" restoration at 3'08" with the Anthology
  Accurate balance corrections in 12 parts matching with the following cuts:
  0'00''-0'57''-1'22''-1'33''-2'06''-3'11''-3'20''-3'51''-4'28''-4'37''-5'52''-6'21''-6'23''


THE IMPERIAL MARCH (DARTH VADER'S THEME)  3'02"
· RSO POLYGRAM CD


YODA'S THEME  3'29"
· RSO POLYGRAM CD


 FOX FANFARE  0'26"
(1980 - EMPIRE Sessions Recording)
· ARISTA/FOX Anthology

Alternate Material:

1m1-1m2 MAIN TITLE,
THE IMPERIAL PROBE  4'04"
(Re-scored, partial film version)
· (0’00'' - 1’31'') Main Title RSO POLYGRAM CD - speed/pitch corrected
· (1'43'' - 2’24'') RCA Special Edition - "New Start" (film overture)
· (2'24'' - 2’35'') RCA Special Edition missing segment
· (2’35'' - 2’43'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology (+ first 3sec from SE for junction)
· (2’43'' - 3’46'') RSO POLYGRAM CD
· (3’15'' - 3’31'') RCA Special Edition - insert bar 80 (unused ending).


9m6/10m1 CARBON FREEZE  4'09"
· (START - 0'23'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (0'23'' - 1'16'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (1'16'' - 1'34'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (1'34'' - 2'38'') ARISTA/FOX Anthology
· (2'38'' - 3'17'') RCA Special Edition - insert bar 57 (unused)
· (3'17'' - END) ARISTA/FOX Anthology
  According to J. Williams piano sketches, the insert misses here a few
  bars in order to allow the correct editing with the following segment.


7m3-12m3/12m4 FINALE, END CREDITS  6'50"
(Film version)
Same as original, with expanded intro from 7m3. The "Imperial March"
is replaced here with its alternate "End Credits Insert" (Anthology bonus
track). John Williams would surely have chosen to present this original
version on the 1980 album but it seems the available recordings of this
part are corrupted with saturation due to too loud volume as testify the
film, the soundtracks, and even the NPR Radio Drama audio-books.

-

Hey, can anybody PM me a link for the third cd of this set?  I have the first two but am missing the third--I'd really appreciate it.  :)

Once again I'd like to commend ABC for his awesome work on this.  He's definitely gone above and beyond in preserving and restoring the ESB score.

Beat me to the post, but we must have been PM'ing those at the same time because I just sent links as well.

Between the two of us you should have something that works.

Merci beaucoup.  ;)

Hello

I love John Williams compositions.

Since 1977, i´ve bought all of the CD´s, not only Star wars ones.

But i want to download these versions you post here, but i don´t find any link.

Can you send me the links?

Thank you very much

You all are making a great work.

WOW! I leave due to a professional project and all this gets done! I'm impressed!

Any chance someone can send me some links.  :D

Can someone please tell me where and how I can get the links to download this set?  I have been looking all over the net for a week and reading this thread for the last half hour and nowhere are the links listed.  Can someone please help me out?

Love this! I have an older version of the RSO album and it is fantastic. A poster on a different board provided Set 2 and it is brilliant as well. I especially enjoy the liner notes. Anyone have a link to sets 1 and 3? I get those and I'm a happy camper. For some reason, I really dig tracks that have the cue numbers as well. Great job all around!

Hi all !

I've just registered and I want to dedicate my first post along with all my LOVE to ABC for his AMAZING work. 

I have been through tens/hundreds of posts to understand the amount of work/time/skill required to build those custom editions... 

Even though I am no professional musician, I am a fan of John Williams and a big fan of Star Wars. Since I have come across this forum (2 days ago), I have realized I can "rediscover" the OT scores... 

I have downloaded ABC's "Salvage Edition" as well as ESB "Optimum Edition v3" (man I can't wait to listen to these...). And then I have come across this "Audiophile Edition". ABC himself somewhere in this forum very modestly stated that although he doesn't consider his work "professional", maybe ESB "Audiophile Edition" could deserve such a title... 

As you can imagine, I would highly appreciate if someone could provide me with links to what I suspect is a masterpiece !

Thank you very much again ABC !!! (and all the good souls that provide support on this forum)

PM's sent - Hope you enjoy them!