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_,,,^..^,,,_'s avatar
RE: The Audio Preservation Thread

Movie: The Thing

Format: Signature Collection Laserdisc 42654 

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped/Sync'd by: Jonno

Notes: Original remix, different from latest HD-DVD/BD

(available for download right now, PM me if interested)

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Movie: The Thing

Format: French PAL laserdisc PLFFB 33061

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, non Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped by: ilovewaterslides / Sync'd by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: French language

   "IT!. . . COULD! . . . WORK!!" 

 

released: SW:ANH [OT) | SW:ANH ['97) | Jurassic Park | The Lost World: JP | The Thing |

Jonno's avatar
RE: The Audio Preservation Thread

This seems to be the appropriate place to say RIP Ray Dolby...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24075429

PDB's avatar
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BDgeek said:

Fantastic thread!

 Thanks you very much PDB and all the enthusiasts that performed this fantastic work!

 

Thanks for the nice words BDGeek!

PDB's avatar
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Movie: The Thing

Format: Signature Collection Laserdisc 42654 

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped/Sync'd by: Jonno

Notes: Original remix, different from latest HD-DVD/BD

(available for download right now, PM me if interested)

***   ***   ***

Movie: The Thing

Format: French PAL laserdisc PLFFB 33061

Input Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 44.1 khz, 16-bit, non Bit Perfect 

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Surround 48 khz, 16-bit 

Synced To: UK HD-DVD (should be OK for US HD-DVD and BD too)

Ripped by: ilovewaterslides / Sync'd by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: French language

Added to the list, thanks,  _,,,^..^,,,_

PDB's avatar
RE: The Audio Preservation Thread

Jonno said:

This seems to be the appropriate place to say RIP Ray Dolby...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24075429

The man was a genius in the word of sound. As someone else said I hope his funeral procession music is in 5.1.

PDB's avatar
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So I completed my initial work on North By Northwest. I have synced the Criterion (CC1226L) mono which took 73 edits and the MGM (ML102228), which is stereo for the opening titles and then mono for the rest of the movie; it took 102 edits. Both are synced to the region A blu-ray.

I am going to watch the Criterion this weekend but I was wondering if there were any volunteers out there that would be willing to test out, this weekend, my sync for both of these soundtracks. With so many edits, I want to make sure everything turns out ok before I add it to the list. PM me. Thanks. 

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

I like this thread, and think it should deserve its own database. Here you are my last capture - it will be released soon:

Movie: Alien

Format: Laserdisc 876085

Input Soundtrack: Dolby Digital AC3 5.1 48KHz 16bit, bit perfect

Output Soundtrack: untouched - BD/DVD/AVCHD compliant

Synced To: 2010 Blu-ray Release Region A Theatrical Edition

Ripped/Synced by: _,,,^..^,,,_

Notes: Sound remastered from the 6-track magnetic masters of an early 70mm mix and contain alternative lines of dialog.

This is awesome, are you willing to do its 2.0 surround track as well? The PCM I did was just a basic capture and not bitperfect.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

Jonno's avatar
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I just did a rip of Superman the Movie using this disc. The current Blu has a lossy presentation of the Dolby Stereo mix, which sounds rather feeble - I thought laserdisc PCM would improve on it. I was wrong...

 photo Supermanstereo.jpg

That's the bitperfect rip of side A in Audition - not only is it extremely quiet (peaking at around -9dB) but the fidelity is really very poor. I'm not inclined to take the time to sync this, but I won't delete the files just yet in case they're of use to someone.

More Superman mix info here, btw: http://andyfilm.com/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4192

Last edited on September 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM by Jonno
Jonno's avatar
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Oh, and in other disappointment news it appears that there's no release of The Black Hole post 1985, so no digital PCM available. A pity - it seems there's a 720p version on US iTunes now, so that would have made for a good combo.

zeropc's avatar
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just because there is no digital audio available, doesn't mean an analog capture is a bad choice. 24bit @ 96khz for the edit and then downsample to 24bit @ 48khz for the release should be more then good enough :)

jonno, i'll take that superman pcm :D

PDB's avatar
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Jonno said:

I just did a rip of Superman the Movie using this disc. The current Blu has a lossy presentation of the Dolby Stereo mix, which sounds rather feeble - I thought laserdisc PCM would improve on it. I was wrong...

 photo Supermanstereo.jpg

That's the bitperfect rip of side A in Audition - not only is it extremely quiet (peaking at around -9dB) but the fidelity is really very poor. I'm not inclined to take the time to sync this, but I won't delete the files just yet in case they're of use to someone.

More Superman mix info here, btw: http://andyfilm.com/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4192

That is disappointing. I was excited for a better copy of the original Dolby Stereo. Are you still going through with this, Jonno? Still would be nice to have a lossless copy.

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Jonno said:

Oh, and in other disappointment news it appears that there's no release of The Black Hole post 1985, so no digital PCM available. A pity - it seems there's a 720p version on US iTunes now, so that would have made for a good combo.

Ha like minds think alike. I looked at that old analog disc on ebay a few times but never pulled the trigger as it was analog. I wanted to hear that awesome John Barry score in Dolby Stereo. 

Jonno's avatar
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I'll upload the files for you (zeropc) - perhaps I'm being unduly harsh, but I don't think there's much to be gained from spending the time on this.

I might have a crack at the analogue Black Hole if I can get a nice copy. Another alternative would be a stereo VHS, I suppose...

In the meantime I'm awaiting delivery of Moonraker - there's another Barry score that always delivers!

zeropc's avatar
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i got an hd cap of the black hole - 1080i50 widescree. could be useful :)

thanks jonno. well, it may not be perfect. but like pdb said, lossless is a good option :)

ilovewaterslides' avatar
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Movie: Back to the Future

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: HDTV 1080p Canal+ version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None




Movie: Back to the Future Part II

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None




Movie: Back to the Future Part III

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None
Last edited on September 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM by ilovewaterslides

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Tack's avatar
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Alright, I gotta question. Could something like this be done for Bakshi's LOTR? To preserve the original narration.

startrekrarities.blogspot.com

 

PDB's avatar
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ilovewaterslides said:

Movie: Back to the Future

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: HDTV 1080p Canal+ version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None




Movie: Back to the Future Part II

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None




Movie: Back to the Future Part III

Format: Laserdisc Widescreen NTSC

Input Soundtrack: Analog 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround, Not Bit Perfect

Output Soundtrack: PCM 2.0 Dolby Stereo Surround 48 khz, 16-bit

Synced To: DXVA HDTV 1080p HDnet version

Ripped/Synced by: Ilovewaterslides

Notes: None

Added to the list, thanks!

PDB's avatar
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Tack said:

Alright, I gotta question. Could something like this be done for Bakshi's LOTR? To preserve the original narration.

I assume so. It has been a long time since I have seen the Bakshi LOTR, what was changed?

I just started work on syncing The Good, The Bad and The Ugly's widescreen mono PCM soundtrack to the Italian Mondo Blu-ray. I'm using Rigby Reardon's AVS script from this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1145562/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-comparison-pix/420

As the soundtrack to edit against since he did all the necessary editing. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether I should fill in the missing Italian scenes with the Italian mono or the English Dub (with old Clint and Eli)?

 

Also rumors of a re-master:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=227798

Last edited on September 16, 2013 at 6:11 PM by PDB
Chewtobacca's avatar
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For the extra scenes, I would rather have a mono downmix of the English DTS-HD MA than the Italian mono.  As far as I'm concerned, it's better to have the actors sound older than not sound like themselves.  If there is a remaster, however, I hope it's the US theatrical because that's my preferred cut of the film.

Last edited on September 17, 2013 at 8:12 PM by Chewtobacca
Tack's avatar
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PDB said:

Tack said:

Alright, I gotta question. Could something like this be done for Bakshi's LOTR? To preserve the original narration.

I assume so. It has been a long time since I have seen the Bakshi LOTR, what was changed?

They changed the narration at the end. Originally, the narration played over the final shot, and was a very brief blurb that promised a sequel. The new narration cuts in right when Gandalf tosses up his sword in the end and makes it more standalone (since a Return of the King film was never produced). Also, the narrator of the new version is clearly different from the narrator of the rest of the film.

startrekrarities.blogspot.com

 

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Chewtobacca said:

For the extras scenes, I would rather have a mono downmix of the English DTS-HD MA than the Italian mono.  As far as I'm concerned, it's better to have the actors sound older than not sound like themselves.  If there is a remaster, however, I hope it's the US theatrical because that's my preferred cut of the film.

Yeah I think that is what I'm going to do

PDB's avatar
RE: The Audio Preservation Thread

Tack said:

PDB said:

Tack said:

Alright, I gotta question. Could something like this be done for Bakshi's LOTR? To preserve the original narration.

I assume so. It has been a long time since I have seen the Bakshi LOTR, what was changed?

They changed the narration at the end. Originally, the narration played over the final shot, and was a very brief blurb that promised a sequel. The new narration cuts in right when Gandalf tosses up his sword in the end and makes it more standalone (since a Return of the King film was never produced). Also, the narrator of the new version is clearly different from the narrator of the rest of the film.

You have any of the materials needed for this fix?

dark_jedi's avatar
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So where is this The Black Hole HD file? I have been wanting to do a BD of this forever! I friggin love watching this movie and have a real nice Intrada 24 track CD I just got, could make for a nice score.

Team Blu Projects Released:
Conan The Barbarian 1982 US Theatrical (126 min), Conan The Barbarian 1982 Extended Edition (130 min), Night of The Living Dead 1990 Special Edition, The Ninja Trilogy.

Team Blu Projects Coming Soon:
Fright Night Part II 1988, Star Wars 1977, A New Hope 1997 Special Edition, The Black Hole, True Lies, The Terminator, Terminator 2 Judgement Day, Swamp Thing, Feast, The Neverending Story.

 

PDB's avatar
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dark_jedi said:

So where is this The Black Hole HD file? I have been wanting to do a BD of this forever! I friggin love watching this movie and have a real nice Intrada 24 track CD I just got, could make for a nice score.

I have the 1080p/24 copy that Jonno mentioned from itunes but it sounds like zeropc has a different (hopefully less compressed) copy. The itunes one is about 3.88 GB.

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PDB said:

Chewtobacca said:

For the extras scenes, I would rather have a mono downmix of the English DTS-HD MA than the Italian mono.  As far as I'm concerned, it's better to have the actors sound older than not sound like themselves.  If there is a remaster, however, I hope it's the US theatrical because that's my preferred cut of the film.

Yeah I think that is what I'm going to do

Thank you! Thank you so much! I second the request for the downmix. Switching language and actors is far more jarring to me.

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