Spaced Ranger said:
@ SilverWook
I'm guessing that you've watched both the U.S. laserdisc and the 16mm enough times to definitively know their differences.
Are the newer WB logo and the removed SEN cuts/shots (5) when talking with the children, the only editorial changes between the 2 versions?
SilverWook said:
I think msycamore mentioned some scenes in the 16mm are in a different order similar to the mysterious Italian recording? (THX's trial, the visit from LUH in the white void, and THX being manipulated by the unseen technicians.) The individual scenes themselves are not cut differently, AFAIK.
The logo and the SEN extended scenes are the only ones I'm sure about.
As I have not yet seen your 16mm print version besides those clips Puggo sent me, I'm only going by what you told us back in 2011:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THX-1138-preservations-Italian-Cut-available-see-1st-post/post/476322/#TopicPost476322
"I just looked at the DV tape of that crappy 16mm transfer I did a while back. (As I needed some blank space at the end for capturing some clips for another project.) The scene with the cops tasering THX while he's naked with LUH comes before the trial and medical exam scenes, as it does in the Italian cut. (And no obvious signs of splices.) Can't believe I didn't notice that before."
I went into details on the editing differences here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THX-1138-preservations-Italian-Cut-available-see-1st-post/post/588049/#TopicPost588049
Scene order in Italian and German TV-broadcast and SilverWook's English 16mm print:
Drug evasion arrest --> LUH visits THX --> Medical examinations --> Trial & "pain prods" (electro-shock batons) scene --> THX is being monitored & researched --> THX put in prison
Scene order in English home video versions and 2004 Cut:
Drug evasion arrest --> Trial & "pain prods" (electro-shock batons) scene --> THX gets medical examinations --> THX is being monitored & researched --> LUH visits THX --> THX put in prison
I'm very curious to see if the 16mm print does contain the same weird anomaly I described happens between "LUH's visit" and the "Medical examinations" in the Italian broadcast.
As said before, TV-edit origin or not, WHY SHUFFLE AROUND THESE SCENES?!!