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bkev's avatar
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I recall their being differences in the super8 version. Different audio takes, etc. Or maybe I'm full of it, who knows - most likely it seems.


  C3PX said:

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bkev,

Puggo is saying that you are dissing the quality of his transfer of the 8mm film to DVD. But yeah, you are right in saying it seems that the 8mm reels were likely derived from the 70mm version.

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Sluggo said:

bkev,
Puggo is saying that you are dissing the quality of his transfer of the 8mm film to DVD.

Indeed, the 8mm films not only provide a small glimpse into the 70mm versions, they are also a great source of film grain, distortion, wobble, and color fade, all of which have been faithfully and gloriously replicated on the Puggo masterpiece!

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bkev's avatar
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Whoops! Yeah, I may have come off a little rude there, and I apologize.
Anyway, back on topic - I *am* interested in seeing the super 8mm of ESB, but have been unable to find it online.


  C3PX said:

The Star Wars you see today is not the Star Wars I grew up with, and I am fine with that, it is just a memory now, something that glimpses of can be seen by peering into boxes stored away in my basement, and that recollections of can be shared with people who grew up with it in a similar was to myself, like many of the people on this board. What more could I ask for?

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bkev said:

I *am* interested in seeing the super 8mm of ESB, but have been unable to find it online.

bkev, you have mail.

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There really ought to be a Puggo/Sluggo project some day... ;)

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Mielr's avatar
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Maybe it's a false memory, but I swear that when I first saw ESB theatrically in 1982,
Han's "and I thought they smelled bad on the outside" line was a different take in
the version I saw (compared to all the subsequent video versions I'vd seen).
I have no idea if the theatrical showing I saw was 35mm or 70mm (was there even a 70mm re-issue of ESB?)

I haven't seen the 8mm version, however. Was that scene included?


Last edited on March 15, 2008 at 6:30 AM by Mielr

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Mielr said:

I haven't seen the 8mm version, however. Was that scene included?

No, not that one.

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_35mm_version_empire_strikes_back_

ok,

was there any differences between the 35mm version of 'empire strikes back', (maybe a mono mix? or was it

stereo only?) ...

 

and the laserdisc versions?(any of them)

 

or as mentioned in the beginning

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The Empire Strikes Back (original theatrical version)
Best source: official 2006 OUT DVD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

are they all the same?

 

i will be able to provide some information hopefully once we get ahold of

that copy, later

-1

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SKot's avatar
RE: Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
negative1 said:

ok,

was there any differences between the 35mm version of 'empire strikes back', (maybe a mono mix? or was it

stereo only?) ...

 

and the laserdisc versions?(any of them)

 

or as mentioned in the beginning

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Empire Strikes Back (original theatrical version)
Best source: official 2006 OUT DVD
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

are they all the same?

 

i will be able to provide some information hopefully once we get ahold of

that copy, later

-1

 

There are different sound mixes from different video releases over the years.  Also, there are 70mm and 35mm sound mixes for ESB that differ.

I've thought about expanding my list here to include the different sound mixes as well as visual differences.  The list would be significantly longer and more complicated that way, of course.  But it might be worth it.

--SKot

Last edited on July 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM by SKot
Mielr's avatar
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I just got Puggo's 8mm DVD the other day, and there were a few really noticeable audio differences in the 8mm version of ESB, all lines spoken by Leia- one is during the asteroid scene, and the other 2 that I noticed were during the Cloud City escape scene.

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Mielr said:

Maybe it's a false memory, but I swear that when I first saw ESB theatrically in 1982,
Han's "and I thought they smelled bad on the outside" line was a different take in
the version I saw (compared to all the subsequent video versions I'vd seen).
I have no idea if the theatrical showing I saw was 35mm or 70mm (was there even a 70mm re-issue of ESB?)

I haven't seen the 8mm version, however. Was that scene included?


There's a difference in that take between most home video releases and the ESB DVD.  The version in the 2004 DVD is from the 70mm mix.

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Just out of curiosity, are WookieGroomer's WMVs still the best source for the 2004 OT?

bkev's avatar
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I think that the purest HD release is, yes.  However, they lack the color corection/changes that Adywan's newest 720p editions have.


  C3PX said:

The Star Wars you see today is not the Star Wars I grew up with, and I am fine with that, it is just a memory now, something that glimpses of can be seen by peering into boxes stored away in my basement, and that recollections of can be shared with people who grew up with it in a similar was to myself, like many of the people on this board. What more could I ask for?

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This may have been answered before:

I'm completely new to this: how and where do I find good versions of the 1997 SE's? I used to have the tapes. Is there a good source online or elsewhere? These were my first introduction to the Star Wars world, and I would like to see them again instead of the atrocious 2004 versions.

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captainsolo said:

This may have been answered before:

I'm completely new to this: how and where do I find good versions of the 1997 SE's? I used to have the tapes. Is there a good source online or elsewhere? These were my first introduction to the Star Wars world, and I would like to see them again instead of the atrocious 2004 versions.

 

The best set is known as the 'TB' which is a recording from a French cable channel but it is not currently available to download, I'm working on a better version combining the TB set with other sources and the 5.1 audio from the laserdiscs. Details are here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Max-Rebos-97-SE-superset-preservation/topic/9031/

 

Fang Zei's avatar
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Does anyone know where I can get ahold of a theatrical TPM transfer with NTSC timing?

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Phantom-Menace-Theatrical-Version-NTSC-DVD-ADYWAN-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/10615/

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There is a discussion of rumored Star Wars HD broadcasts from Australia.  

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/New-HDTV-Broadcasts/topic/11101/

 

 

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